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    What are they doing in Pakistan !! This is running out of control.

    Pakistan expanding its nuclear capability

    12 May [MSNBC] On the dusty plain 110 miles southwest of Islamabad, not far from an area controlled by the Taliban, two large new structures are rising, structures that in light of Pakistan’s internal troubles must be considered ominous for the stability of South Asia and, for that matter, the world.

    Without any public U.S. reproach, Pakistan is building two of the developing world’s largest plutonium production reactors, which experts say could lead to improvements in the quantity and quality of the country’s nuclear arsenal, now estimated at 60 to 80 weapons.

    What makes the project even more threatening is that it is unique.

    “Pakistan is really the only country rapidly building up its nuclear forces,” says a U.S. intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the classified nature of the issue, noting that the nations that first developed nuclear weapons are now reducing their arsenals.

    Moreover, he and other U.S. officials say, there long have been concerns about those who run the facility where the reactors are being built near the town of Khushab. They note that a month before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, Khushab’s former director met with Osama bin Laden and his deputy, Ayman al-Zawahiri, and offered a nuclear weapons tutorial around an Afghanistan campfire.

    Then there are the billions in U.S. economic and military aid that have permitted Pakistan’s military to divert resources to nuclear and other weapons projects.

    Bottom line: Khushab exemplifies all of the dangers posed by the Pakistani nuclear weapons program. ...

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    Funds from the US is going into increasing Pakistan's nuclear arms. The Obama admin knows about the new nuclear weapons being made.

    Pakistan Is Rapidly Adding Nuclear Arms, U.S. Says

    17 May [NYTimes] WASHINGTON — Members of Congress have been told in confidential briefings that Pakistan is rapidly adding to its nuclear arsenal even while racked by insurgency, raising questions on Capitol Hill about whether billions of dollars in proposed military aid might be diverted to Pakistan’s nuclear program.

    Adm. Mike Mullen, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, confirmed the assessment of the expanded arsenal in a one-word answer to a question on Thursday in the midst of lengthy Senate testimony. Sitting beside Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates, he was asked whether he had seen evidence of an increase in the size of the Pakistani nuclear arsenal.

    “Yes,” he said quickly, adding nothing, clearly cognizant of Pakistan’s sensitivity to any discussion about the country’s nuclear strategy or security.

    Inside the Obama administration, some officials say, Pakistan’s drive to spend heavily on new nuclear arms has been a source of growing concern, because the country is producing more nuclear material at a time when Washington is increasingly focused on trying to assure the security of an arsenal of 80 to 100 weapons so that they will never fall into the hands of Islamic insurgents.

    The administration’s effort is complicated by the fact that Pakistan is producing an unknown amount of new bomb-grade uranium and, once a series of new reactors is completed, bomb-grade plutonium for a new generation of weapons. President Obama has called for passage of a treaty that would stop all nations from producing more fissile material — the hardest part of making a nuclear weapon — but so far has said nothing in public about Pakistan’s activities. ...

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    This thread started on the nuclear arms talks of US and Russia. They just had another two days of talks.

    They say these talks are successful, but the Russian are unhappy over the anti-missile system in Poland and Czech republic.

    U.S.-Russia nuclear talks make positive start

    20 May MOSCOW (Reuters) - The United States and Russia have held two days of successful talks on ways to slash vast stockpiles of Cold War nuclear weapons, a Russian diplomat said on Wednesday.

    Finding a replacement for the 1991 Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (START I) before it expires on December 5 could herald a thaw in relations between the world's biggest two nuclear powers.

    U.S. President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev last month ordered officials to begin the complicated talks needed to find a replacement for START, one of the biggest arms reduction deals in history.

    "The talks were held in a constructive spirit, we consider they were successful," a Russian diplomat told Reuters after the first round of formal negotiations ended on Wednesday. He gave no details on where progress had been made.

    The diplomat said the next round of talks would be held in Geneva on June 1-3 and that a progress report would be made to Obama and Medvedev at their meeting in Moscow on July 6-8. ...

    The talks are complicated by Washington's plan to station elements of an anti-missile system in Poland and Czech Republic, in order to intercept rockets fired from what it sees as rogue states, such as Iran. Russia says the plan will undermine its national security. ...

    Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Wednesday said the United States must allay Russian concerns over the missile system to achieve a breakthrough in the nuclear weapons talks. ....

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    As usual, these Q+A by Reuters are good. This is about nuclear proliferation risks of N Korea. Click into the link to read more.

    Q+A - North Korea: the key global nuclear proliferation risk
    27 May SINGAPORE (Reuters) - North Korea's nuclear test this week, and reports it has restarted a plant that makes weapons-grade plutonium, have raised fears of further proliferation that could seriously destabilise global security.

    WHAT IS NORTH KOREA'S ROLE IN NUCLEAR PROLIFERATION?
    Weapons exports are a key source of revenue for North Korea's ramshackle economy, and a means through which Pyongyang cements its ties with other "rogue states" hostile to the West.

    What makes the country such a proliferation threat is that it is willing -- indeed, eager -- to sell its weapons technology, materials and know-how to the highest bidders.

    And its nuclear test, the country's second, will have sparked the interest of many potential bidders.

    A study by the U.S.-based Institute for Foreign Policy Analysis think tank this year estimates that Pyongyang earns around $1.5 billion a year from missile sales.

    North Korean missile technology has already been exported to Pakistan, Libya, Iran, Syria and Egypt.

    WHAT COUNTRIES MAY SEEK NORTH KOREAN NUCLEAR ASSISTANCE?
    Western policymakers are most alarmed by Iran and Syria's desire to boost their nuclear capability. Washington says Pyongyang has already exported missiles and missile technology to Iran and nuclear technology to Syria. ...

    There is also a concern that Iran's and Syria's nuclear ambitions may spark an arms race in the Middle East, where only Israel currently has the bomb. Saudi Arabia, Egypt and Gulf states may seek nuclear capability to balance the threat from Damascus and Tehran, analysts say.

    WHAT ABOUT AN ARMS RACE IN ASIA?
    The latest North Korean test may increase calls in Japan and South Korea to have their own nuclear deterrent rather than relying on the U.S. security umbrella. But analysts say it is very unlikely that these countries would risk Washington's displeasure by developing nuclear bombs, although they may well beef up their conventional missile capabilities.

    Another risk is that an existing nuclear power uses Pyongyang's test as an excuse to conduct another test of its own. Most worryingly, a Pakistani nuclear test would further inflame tensions with India and increase instability in South Asia.

    COULD MILITANT GROUPS ACQUIRE NUCLEAR KNOW-HOW?
    The United States says North Korea has already provided conventional weapons technology and training to the Tamil Tigers and Lebanon's Hezbollah. Al Qaeda and related groups are actively seeking nuclear materials and know-how, and analysts say North Korea would be one of their most likely sources. ...

    HOW CAN PROLIFERATION FROM NORTH KOREA BE CONTAINED?
    One lesson from attempts to curb Pyongyang's nuclear programme is that sanctions and threats have little effect, or only encourage North Korean defiance. Many analysts say the fact North Korea's defiance and brinkmanship have not brought a decisive response may embolden other would-be nuclear powers. ...

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    For some reason unkown, India repeatedly refuses to sign the Non-Proliferation Treaty. Anybody knows why?

    India sticks to its stand on NPT
    30 May [EconomicTimes] BANGALORE: External affairs minister S M Krishna on Friday signalled that India will rebuff renewed American attempts to get the country to sign the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT), weeks ahead of a scheduled visit by United States Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    India will reiterate its long-standing position on the treaty, which it regards as discriminatory, when Ms Clinton visits the country in July, ....

    “Every country has its nuclear policy... Our position has been made very clear,” he said. After a lull of eight years under George W Bush’s presidency, the Barack Obama administration has revived talk that it wants India, Pakistan, Israel and North Korea to sign the NPT amid preparations for a conference to review the treaty next year.

    India and the United States finalised a civil nuclear agreement last year amid stiff opposition from the nuclear non-proliferation lobby which regards it as a threat to the NPT. India has maintained that it will not sign the treaty as a non-nuclear weapons state. ....
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    They have no respect for nukes and still see them as a status symbol.
    F/A-18E/F Super Hornet: The Honda Accord of fighters.

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    Lets look at the deeper real reason.

    I understand from the above link Israel, Pakistan, N Korea and India are the four known nuclear states that have not signed the NPT.

    Does this means India would sign only when Pakistan also signs?

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    Correction, North Korea signed and withdrew from the NPT.

    India always claimed that her nukes are China oriented and Pakistan claims that her nukes are India oriented.

    Israel wants a trump card against overwhelming Arab numbers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BenRoethig View Post
    They have no respect for nukes and still see them as a status symbol.
    India has always said, and has believed in global disarmament. The question is of course - what does India stand to gain by signing the NPT ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by axeman View Post
    India has always said, and has believed in global disarmament. The question is of course - what does India stand to gain by signing the NPT ?
    Reprocessing techologies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    Reprocessing techologies.
    Doesn't India already have the technology (or will get it as a result of the N-deal) ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by axeman View Post
    Doesn't India already have the technology (or will get it as a result of the N-deal) ?
    India's reprocessing technologies are nowhere as advanced as the top NSG suppliers.

    While there are no conditions with the NSG Waiver to India, the NSG members themselves have decided not to sell reprocessing technologies to India. Both Russia and France stated that reprocessing technologies is not in the offerring.

    Expect other restrictions to appear once the NSG decides amongst themselves what non-NPT members can buy (read what they will sell to Israel and Pakistan as well as Indai).
    Chimo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    India's reprocessing technologies are nowhere as advanced as the top NSG suppliers.
    While the technology may not be as advanced, we still have it. In the past (recent and not-so-recent), all India needed was fuel to meet its civilian requirements and create enough weapons.
    In any case, the cons of signing the NPT greatly outweigh the pros. What is probably a more interesting topic is the CTBT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by axeman View Post
    While the technology may not be as advanced, we still have it. In the past (recent and not-so-recent), all India needed was fuel to meet its civilian requirements and create enough weapons.
    The reprocessing technology is a nice-to-have but not necessarily a need-to-have. Still, it was quite a wake up call that the NSG Waiver does not mean free shopping.

    However, to put things in perspective. China upon signing the NPT in 1992 bought reprocessing technologies from Russia and is in the market for new ones from France.

    Quote Originally Posted by axeman View Post
    In any case, the cons of signing the NPT greatly outweigh the pros.
    At this moment, I agree with you but the NSG is in the process of deciding what they will and will not sell to non-NPT members, ie Israel and Pakistan. So, that will have a future consideration to be had.

    I think at this moment, anything that would add to a nuclear arsenal is off limits (including reprocessing technologies) but nuclear safety is a paramount that all should have.

    Quote Originally Posted by axeman View Post
    What is probably a more interesting topic is the CTBT.
    Hard topic. Currently, the Indian nuclear arsenal requires no additional testing but with come time, the aged inventory would be a problem since India does not have the test data to check the status of an aged arsenal.

    Israel, right now, is facing this delima.
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    How about both sides cutting below the 1500 warhead level?

    Putin Talks of Giving Up Nukes
    11 June [MoscowTimes] (AP) Prime Minister Vladimir Putin said Wednesday that Russia was willing to abandon nuclear weapons if the United States and all other countries that have them do the same.

    "If those who made the atomic bomb and used it are ready to abandon it like, I hope, other nuclear powers officially and unofficially owning them, of course we will welcome and facilitate this process in all ways," Putin said, RIA-Novosti reported.

    Putin spoke at a meeting with German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier, who said earlier that the idea of scrapping nuclear arms altogether rather than limiting their proliferation was a real prospect.

    In a joint declaration on April 1, Presidents Barack Obama and Dmitry Medvedev ordered negotiators to start work on a new treaty reducing their nuclear stockpiles as a first step toward "a nuclear-weapon-free world."

    Meanwhile, Nikolai Solovtsov, the chief of the military's Strategic Missile Forces, said Wednesday that the new treaty must not cut the number of nuclear warheads below 1,500 each.

    As it stands now, the United States has 2,200 strategic nuclear warheads deployed; Russia has 2,800.

    Russia has linked the treaty to U.S. plans to deploy a missile defense shield in Central Europe, which it opposes. ...

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