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**Parihaka** · 11-06-2005, 23:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus

Unfortunately, our activity is secret.

**TopHatter** · 11-06-2005, 23:13 PM

Which one is Bulgar? The 4-legged one?

Bluesman · 11-06-2005, 23:17 PM

Okay, just ran across this thread (my mother just came into town today, and I haven't been on a lot this weekend).

The practice of multiple profiles and coming back after being thrown out, and in either case posing as somebody else is known as 'using a sock puppet', or 'using sock puppets'.

From Wikipedia:

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An Internet sock puppet is an additional account created by an existing member of an Internet community, sometimes to manufacture the illusion of support in a vote or argument. Other reasons include a desire to support or vote on an issue coupled with a desire to have one's "main" account stay away from the issue. This behaviour is sometimes seen as being dishonest by online communities and as a result these individuals are often labeled as trolls.

Another type of sock puppet is sometimes referred to as a “straw man sock puppet.” They are created by users with one point of view, but act as though they have an opposing point of view, in order to make that point of view look bad. They will often make poor arguments which their “opponents” can then easily refute. This can allow them to essentially make straw man arguments. Such sock puppets thus become a personification of the straw man argument which their creators argue against. They often act unintelligent or uninformed, and may behave in an overtly bigoted manner. The effect is often to obfuscate the debate and prevent a serious discussion of the arguments from each side. Suspicion of such sock puppets is often harder to verify though, as there are often people who naturally behave in such a manner with the same effects.

A third type of sock puppet is an account created by the manufacturer of a product or the author of a book for the sole purpose of recommending the product/book by posing as an enthusiastic consumer or reader (a crude attempt at do-it-yourself viral marketing).

The term was used on July 9, 1993 in a posting to bit.listserv.fnord-l, but was not in common usage in USENET groups until 1996.

A meat puppet is a variation where a new internet community member account is created by another person at the request of an user solely for the purposes of influencing the community. Meat puppetry may been seen as more honest than sock puppetry, but the difference between the two may be negligible.

Bottom line: this is a community, virtual and on-line though it may be. And when somebody bases their entire relationship to that community on lies and deceit, the rest of us - through the mods, of course - have a right to exclude them from our society.

**TopHatter** · 11-06-2005, 23:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

Bottom line: this is a community, virtual and on-line though it may be. And when somebody bases their entire relationship to that community on lies and deceit, the rest of us - through the mods, of course - have a right to exclude them from our society.

Well said my friend.

Bulgaroctonus · 11-06-2005, 23:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

Which one is Bulgar? The 4-legged one?

I'll not disclose my appearance. But I'll show you a picture of our leader...One moment please...

**Parihaka** · 11-06-2005, 23:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

Which one is Bulgar? The 4-legged one?

Bluesman · 11-06-2005, 23:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

Credit there goes to our resident blue-suiter Bluesman.
Even though not a Mod and without the IP checking capability, he used his considerable intelligence and analyst training to sniff out the troublemakers in our midst.

Used some good ole 202 TA. (if anybody on here knows what that is, post it up. If anybody would LIKE to know - hard to imagine, but some folks are into arcana - ask, and I'll explain it.)

THL · 11-06-2005, 23:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus

I'll not disclose my appearance. But I'll show you a picture of our leader...One moment please...

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Bluesman · 11-06-2005, 23:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

Nah, young Bulgar is far more intelligent than lulldapull ever was.

And far less annoying.

Bulgaroctonus · 11-06-2005, 23:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

Used some good ole 202 TA. (if anybody on here knows what that is, post it up. If anybody would LIKE to know - hard to imagine, but some folks are into arcana - ask, and I'll explain it.)

I don't know what it is.

**TopHatter** · 11-06-2005, 23:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluesman

Used some good ole 202 TA. (if anybody on here knows what that is, post it up. If anybody would LIKE to know - hard to imagine, but some folks are into arcana - ask, and I'll explain it.)

Of course I want to know what it is...though the TA obviously stands for Traffic Analysis. I have no clue what the 202 denote

**TopHatter** · 11-06-2005, 23:26 PM

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Originally Posted by parihaka

I knew it....I just knew it

THL · 11-06-2005, 23:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TopHatter

Of course I want to know what it is...though the TA obviously stands for Traffic Analysis. I have no clue what the 202 denote

Traffic Analysis!!! OH!!! LOL...

Bulgaroctonus · 11-06-2005, 23:29 PM

I'm still trying to get this damn image to go on. I'm trying to remember how I did it before.

Confed999 · 11-06-2005, 23:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus

I've noticed that many members, especially new ones, are banned for no apparent reason. ... I'd just like to have a centralized thread for the moderators

We have one, you just can't see it.

Most bannings are for obvious reasons, the ones you can't figure out are usually people that were allready banned under another name.

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Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus

Confed999 also didn't like lulldapull that much.

lull was just a problem, a foul mouthed, racist, troll, and a bad example for the new members. We gave him more chances than he deserved. I wish him only the best, just so long as it keeps him elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus

Also, does the status of being a Senior Member convey any protection from banning? For example, three out of five moderators have to vote for the ban.

Sure, anyone who's posted alot without being a problem, is going to gain more benefit from the doubt. There is no vote.

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Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus

I wish one of the moderators would see this thread. I have questions.

I'm doing my best.

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Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus

Can a banned person ever appeal the decision?

Sure, they could use the email contact lists to explain their side. I'm not certain, but I believe this was done once and another chance given. IIRC, the second chancer didn't make it a week.

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Originally Posted by Bulgaroctonus

Do the moderators ever lift a ban in order to give a person a second round?

There are alot of 3 day bans, but that's about it for temporary bans.

11-06-2005, 23:13 PM	#47 (permalink)
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Bulgaroctonus *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 10-29-04 Location: Rutgers University, New Brunswick, NJ Posts: 1,139 Country:	I'm still trying to get this damn image to go on. I'm trying to remember how I did it before. Last edited by Bulgaroctonus : 11-06-2005 at 23:34 PM.

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