An Appeal to the Mods and Sub Continental Posters

Ray · 10-07-2005, 01:24 AM

We subcontinentals are sensitive to a fault, overly emotional and quick to take umbrage.

I include myself, too, in that categorisation.

And we love a controversy and thereafter dive into a most "energetic" debate and churn out a whole lot of researched links etc.

This is excellent for education. There is no doubt about that. I, for one, have been highly educated from these controversial subjects and I have no qualms in admitting the same.

Let controversial topic come for our education.

However, can we not use moderate language? I, too, am guilty.

Can we not moderate our syntax? Must they be provocative? I am sure I too must have inadvertently been guilty of the same.

I am sure we can, as I say, "Take it easy and look busy"!

Let us debate, including the controversial issues, but with temperance. I agree the "fun" maybe lost, but if we debate sensibly, greater knowledge with flow and it will be less of the famous Americanism I learnt on the WAB, cluster -f uck. There I go with a bad word! We subcontinentals can never change?

There are people who are very volatile and very emotional. I, with no prejudice state that, say, like Asim.

Is he a virulent Islamist? I dare say, NO. He is just a young man, in an Islamic country. Can we honestly say that the environment in that country will not affect his psyche? Even today there is a report by Reuters from Dubai that the AQ has put up an ad for recruits for their video and reporting! I am sure that is being discussed amongst peers and I am sure that affects the psyche and that psyche inadvertently surface on WAB!

True, his post's content may not be palatable to some or even many. Therefore, would it not be better to bring him to understand what he may like to consider? And anyway, his also gives an insight into the psyche prevelant.

Now compare him with Hongkong.

Take Hongkong's thread. He based his argument on just one Report by Bose, who is but just one historian amongst the many. Obviously, that was flawed but he failed to realise the same since he had an agenda. There will be such people and they should be ignored as one ignored one of the posters who merely posted Khalistani ads one after the other but would not join debate. I would recommend that one ignores such people rather than encourage them with rejoinders.

Asim, to the best of my belief, is not an agenda man. He is just a young hot blood as many around here on both sides of the divide. I sadly cannot qualify to be young hot blood.

The history of India and Pakistan is not a very friendly one. In fact, it is obnoxiously hostile. Therefore, it is obvious that animosity will surface. But let it bubble gently and not boil over!

Let blood not be thicker than water. Let us condemn what is condemnable. Then, and then only, will our countries, of which we are very proud of, flourish!

I can only appeal.

It is for those who post and those who Moderate to hear my plaintive cry.

Forgive me Father, for I, too, have sinned.

Samudra · 10-07-2005, 01:32 AM

Quote:

I can only appeal.

You can order

And one would be comply!

indianguy4u · 10-07-2005, 01:55 AM

Lets do away with the thread altogether

. I have started a thread to that effect in AP subforum.link

Ray · 10-07-2005, 02:42 AM

samudra,

I try my best to be what they call - a team man.

I hate orders since most of them are senseless and I hate to give orders. I like to discuss issues wherever feasible and there is time to indulge in it (since I am not infallible) and then make up my mind. Thereafter, I used to give directions and did not give orders.

The difference between orders and directions?

Orders are to be obeyed explicitly. No baat cheet (discussion by anyone acceptable).

Directions are those which can be changed mid course if one finds it not suiting the time and environment. They are called mid course corrections. Again, time and wherewithal of course is the consideration.

Samudra · 10-07-2005, 02:51 AM

It is Directions then.

bull · 10-07-2005, 07:04 AM

its not regulars who cause problems..its more or less triggerred by the newbies.And the regulars get carried away bcoz of the exiasting volatility in the region/relationships.

Karthik · 10-07-2005, 07:36 AM

Those directions are valid Sir.

I'm all for this. But it is my hope that your afforementioned directions, when and if followed, will not the be the ephemeral short-lived vapor that it so often has been in the recent past.

You have my compliance.

Neo · 10-07-2005, 14:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karthik

Those directions are valid Sir.

I'm all for this. But it is my hope that your afforementioned directions, when and if followed, will not the be the ephemeral short-lived vapor that it so often has been in the recent past.

You have my compliance.

I second that and certainly hope that mods will take Sir Ray's plea in consideration

**Julie** · 10-07-2005, 18:41 PM

I hear ya Ray....and I hope I am also considered a team player. It may be easier said than done, but hey, you know I'm game.

Ray · 10-08-2005, 00:04 AM

Julie,

You are more than a team player.

You are THE Team!

Many a crisis you have steered the WAB through; not only with the subcontinental spats but international ones!

**Officer of Engineers** · 10-08-2005, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ray

Thereafter, I used to give directions and did not give orders.

*** busting a gut laughing *** Sir, you do realize that you're a one star.

Ray · 10-08-2005, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

*** busting a gut laughing *** Sir, you do realize that you're a one star.

However, out here, let Peace reign!

Ray · 10-12-2005, 06:07 AM

(Sung to the tune Oh Where Oh Where has my Little Dog Gone)
(No offence meant but the words below are what is important and the tune!)

Oh where oh where has my Little ASim gone?

Oh where oh where can he be?

With his vitrolic tongue and his bite so bright

********************
(Sung to the tune My Bonny Lies over the Ocean)

My Asim lies over in Isrealforum

My Asim lies in PDF sea

My Asim hiberates in Israeli forum

On where oh wher can he be?

Oh why does he not come back to me?!

bull · 10-12-2005, 06:17 AM

Ray.......................u r un stopable

indianguy4u · 10-12-2005, 06:36 AM

To admin of WAB,
Now that WAB has given a link to israelforum.com, how about members of WAB to contribute at their forum without the need of opening an A/C over their? Is this possible?

10-07-2005, 01:24 AM	#1 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 25,850 Country:	An Appeal to the Mods and Sub Continental Posters We subcontinentals are sensitive to a fault, overly emotional and quick to take umbrage. I include myself, too, in that categorisation. And we love a controversy and thereafter dive into a most "energetic" debate and churn out a whole lot of researched links etc. This is excellent for education. There is no doubt about that. I, for one, have been highly educated from these controversial subjects and I have no qualms in admitting the same. Let controversial topic come for our education. However, can we not use moderate language? I, too, am guilty. Can we not moderate our syntax? Must they be provocative? I am sure I too must have inadvertently been guilty of the same. I am sure we can, as I say, "Take it easy and look busy"! Let us debate, including the controversial issues, but with temperance. I agree the "fun" maybe lost, but if we debate sensibly, greater knowledge with flow and it will be less of the famous Americanism I learnt on the WAB, cluster -f uck. There I go with a bad word! We subcontinentals can never change? There are people who are very volatile and very emotional. I, with no prejudice state that, say, like Asim. Is he a virulent Islamist? I dare say, NO. He is just a young man, in an Islamic country. Can we honestly say that the environment in that country will not affect his psyche? Even today there is a report by Reuters from Dubai that the AQ has put up an ad for recruits for their video and reporting! I am sure that is being discussed amongst peers and I am sure that affects the psyche and that psyche inadvertently surface on WAB! True, his post's content may not be palatable to some or even many. Therefore, would it not be better to bring him to understand what he may like to consider? And anyway, his also gives an insight into the psyche prevelant. Now compare him with Hongkong. Take Hongkong's thread. He based his argument on just one Report by Bose, who is but just one historian amongst the many. Obviously, that was flawed but he failed to realise the same since he had an agenda. There will be such people and they should be ignored as one ignored one of the posters who merely posted Khalistani ads one after the other but would not join debate. I would recommend that one ignores such people rather than encourage them with rejoinders. Asim, to the best of my belief, is not an agenda man. He is just a young hot blood as many around here on both sides of the divide. I sadly cannot qualify to be young hot blood. The history of India and Pakistan is not a very friendly one. In fact, it is obnoxiously hostile. Therefore, it is obvious that animosity will surface. But let it bubble gently and not boil over! Let blood not be thicker than water. Let us condemn what is condemnable. Then, and then only, will our countries, of which we are very proud of, flourish! I can only appeal. It is for those who post and those who Moderate to hear my plaintive cry. Forgive me Father, for I, too, have sinned. Last edited by Ray : 10-07-2005 at 01:30 AM.

10-07-2005, 01:55 AM	#3 (permalink)
indianguy4u Real Madrid CF *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 03-07-05 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,213 Country:	Lets do away with the thread altogether . I have started a thread to that effect in AP subforum.link __________________ Hala Madrid!! Last edited by indianguy4u : 10-07-2005 at 02:29 AM.

10-07-2005, 07:04 AM	#6 (permalink)
bull *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-17-05 Posts: 2,982	its not regulars who cause problems..its more or less triggerred by the newbies.And the regulars get carried away bcoz of the exiasting volatility in the region/relationships. __________________ What's the difference between people who pray in church and those who pray in casinos? The ones in the casinos are serious.

10-07-2005, 07:36 AM	#7 (permalink)
Karthik Seeker of Rivendell *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 12-15-04 Location: Bangalore, India Posts: 1,564 Country:	Those directions are valid Sir. I'm all for this. But it is my hope that your afforementioned directions, when and if followed, will not the be the ephemeral short-lived vapor that it so often has been in the recent past. You have my compliance. __________________ "There is no excellence in all this world that can be separated from right living." - David Star Jordan My Blog

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10-07-2005, 02:42 AM	#4 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 25,850 Country:	samudra, I try my best to be what they call - a team man. I hate orders since most of them are senseless and I hate to give orders. I like to discuss issues wherever feasible and there is time to indulge in it (since I am not infallible) and then make up my mind. Thereafter, I used to give directions and did not give orders. The difference between orders and directions? Orders are to be obeyed explicitly. No baat cheet (discussion by anyone acceptable). Directions are those which can be changed mid course if one finds it not suiting the time and environment. They are called mid course corrections. Again, time and wherewithal of course is the consideration.

10-07-2005, 02:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
Samudra *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-01-04 Location: North London Posts: 4,272 Country:	It is Directions then.

10-07-2005, 18:41 PM	#9 (permalink)
Julie Moderator Join Date: 08-04-03 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 6,320 Country:	I hear ya Ray....and I hope I am also considered a team player. It may be easier said than done, but hey, you know I'm game.

10-08-2005, 00:04 AM	#10 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 25,850 Country:	Julie, You are more than a team player. You are THE Team! Many a crisis you have steered the WAB through; not only with the subcontinental spats but international ones!

10-12-2005, 06:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
Ray Postmaster General *Military Professional* Join Date: 08-20-03 Posts: 25,850 Country:	(Sung to the tune Oh Where Oh Where has my Little Dog Gone) (No offence meant but the words below are what is important and the tune!) Oh where oh where has my Little ASim gone? Oh where oh where can he be? With his vitrolic tongue and his bite so bright ******************** (Sung to the tune My Bonny Lies over the Ocean) My Asim lies over in Isrealforum My Asim lies in PDF sea My Asim hiberates in Israeli forum On where oh wher can he be? Oh why does he not come back to me?!

10-12-2005, 06:17 AM	#14 (permalink)
bull *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 01-17-05 Posts: 2,982	Ray.......................u r un stopable

10-12-2005, 06:36 AM	#15 (permalink)
indianguy4u Real Madrid CF *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 03-07-05 Location: Mumbai Posts: 3,213 Country:	To admin of WAB, Now that WAB has given a link to israelforum.com, how about members of WAB to contribute at their forum without the need of opening an A/C over their? Is this possible?

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