M1A2 vs T-80U

**BUFF** · 06 Aug 03,, 04:39

Now, of course we have the superior trainees...but in terms of performance which overall is the better tank? And which carries the better Armour?

**Bill** · 06 Aug 03,, 06:39

The M-1A1HA/A2, Leo II and Chalenger II are really in a class all their own.

A formation of T-80s would stand little chance against a formation of the big3, even with properly trained crews...something that all operators of T series tanks seem to universally lack.

**BUFF** · 07 Aug 03,, 03:41

Does the M1A2 carry the 'Chobham'(however you spell it) armour that the Challenger 2 carries?

**Bill** · 07 Aug 03,, 03:58

All M-1's do. The A1HA and newer also have Depleted Uranium armor panels as well.

**BUFF** · 07 Aug 03,, 04:09

Is the Chobham, on the Leopard ll?

It has proven to be very effective type of armour from what I've read of.

**Bill** · 07 Aug 03,, 06:06

Chobham is used on all versions of the Leo II, Abrams and Challenger.

Chobham equivelant armor is used on the LeClerk.

Supposedly the T-80U and newer have some sort of composite armor, but it's totally unproven in combat.

**BUFF** · 07 Aug 03,, 23:35

What shocks me in the turbine engine in the M1, kicks the 68 tons of devastating steel at about 45mph.

I think it has the most powerful tank engine ever to be placed inside a tank.

**Bill** · 07 Aug 03,, 23:53

With the governer disabled the early M-1s could do 70 mph.

At the test track in detroit with no turret installed M-1's hit 90mph.

LOL, that's hauling ass.

**bigross86** · 08 Aug 03,, 01:15

But what's the point of driving it without the turret, except for getting a really big Afro?

**Bill** · 08 Aug 03,, 01:22

I dunno, validating the tracks and suspension i guess.

Probably just because it was fun as hell, LOL.

**BUFF** · 08 Aug 03,, 02:09

Damn that is fast! I heard the speed the M1 reaches would make most tanks tracks fall right off...

I wouldn't want to face an M1 or Challenger ll.

Brits really made a good tank with the Challenger.

**Stinger** · 08 Aug 03,, 14:43

T series tanks do surpass the M1 in the "flying frying pan" manuever.

**Bill** · 08 Aug 03,, 19:06

LOL! Indeed they do Stinger.

**2DREZQ** · 09 Aug 03,, 01:04

So....
Your nice Highway Patrol Officer is sitting on an approach late one night. His radar beeps.... 70...70...70...70. And it's a 45 zone. He doesn't recognize the headlight configuration, but that doesn't matter, this guys gonna get a ticket...

"OK, Officer Jensen (Sargent speaking), How is it that a speeder CRUSHED your cruiser to FOUR INCHES THICK???? And you didn't even get a license number!"

**TNP** · 11 Aug 03,, 22:12

But wouldnt the T-80(UD/84/90/90S), with the range provided to them by
the AT-11 sniper ATGM's be able to strike the M1A2 from farther
away? They would not pierce its armour, but nevertheless, the explosion
would render ineffective their advanced targeting sights.