Thread: US army vs. Russian army

Originally Posted by Serbianpsyco

The russians have S-300 SAM and S-400SAM plus they are making lots of money through oil currently and t-55s they have are for reserves and they also have the T-72s updated they can updated them a bit more like the serbian m-2001 upgrade package that is equilvent nealry the same as the t-90S and that would be good they also have over 150 mig 29SMTs plus they also have su-30s and there all reviltely modern plus they could always have a big jet fighter force they could always bring out there mig 29Cs and Mig29As out of stoerage. Plus the ameircans would have to have a base to camp from maybe the closest the Ukraine or somewere and they could move close in russia to the base and Scud them.

What is so scary about T55's and S300/400 sams,flankers,and fulcrums.

Originally Posted by urmomma158

What is so scary about T55's and S300/400 sams,flankers,and fulcrums.

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Originally Posted by American_Raider

Most of the war examples been talk here are limited warfare, they don't really test the full capability of an Army.

At its high back in the late 80s, Russian Ground Force with their 62,000 tanks, 86,000 AFV & 43,000 Artilleries is a massive & very powerful force to over come.

And now, Russian force is still deploying 21,000 Tanks (most of them are later models T90s, T84s, & T72s), with 25,975 AFV & 15,000+ Artilleries. It's still a a powerful force.

But Current Russian troops are lack of trainning & her economy can't supprot a marjor conflict, mobilizing ground troops can be very difficult.

In a limited conflict with US Army, Russian can hold her own, but is a full scale conventional war, Russian will be defeated.

in my view the opposite. In a limited conflict Russian army will lose to most of the western armies.... even to quite small armies (training & morale).

However on a large scale and conventional war Russia will most probably win. Unfortunatelly to Russians their economy still perfectly fits to millitary needs... Today when so much of US industrial might is moved to Asia, it even has chance to outproduce US in millitary terms. All resources which Russia would need for this are domestic and internal, so war mobilization would yield high rates of arms production.

ps. Hopefully Russian economy is changing and it will soon switch capacities to more butter than guns. Today there are still too much idle capacties for guns

Originally Posted by Garry

Today when so much of US industrial might is moved to Asia, it even has chance to outproduce US in millitary terms. All resources which Russia would need for this are domestic and internal, so war mobilization would yield high rates of arms production.

ps. Hopefully Russian economy is changing and it will soon switch capacities to more butter than guns. Today there are still too much idle capacties for guns

I'm sorry but in this case you are deeply wrong. USA is still the mightiest industrial nation in the world. You are mistaking movement of labor to Asia as for a declining of US industrial might. Not so. USA has consistently improved its industrial production efficiency and thus reduced the need for labor force. Moreso, Asia cannot match US in high tech material productions which will matter in the 21st century warfare.