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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
    Let's not forget one detail. The Russians wrote the book on Operations.
    And promptly sold if for bottle of Vodka.

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    Alright then so what do you guys think of the US army vs the Russian army?

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    Quote Originally Posted by urmomma158
    Alright then so what do you guys think of the US army vs the Russian army?
    The U.S. armed forces outclass, by an order of magnitude, the armed forces of Russia in every imaginable way. Don't we already have a dozen threads on this topic here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by urmomma158
    Alright then so what do you guys think of the US army vs the Russian army?
    Before or after the Russian Army ceases to exist? Seriously, read the news. The Russians "officially" abandoned parity, which was merely formalizing the status quo.
    "So little pains do the vulgar take in the investigation of truth, accepting readily the first story that comes to hand." Thucydides 1.20.3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers
    Let's not forget one detail. The Russians wrote the book on Operations.
    They also wrote the book on communism(though it was a german that invented it).

    Screw the Russians. We were ready for them then, we are ready for them now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper
    They also wrote the book on communism(though it was a german that invented it).

    Screw the Russians. We were ready for them then, we are ready for them now.
    I think we even more ready today. However, talking about a system that made effective use of Penal Battalions, the most unmotivated soldiers that you could ever get. There's alot to be learned there.
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    US army against Russian Army is much, it is a lot of blood, even excepting the nuclear weapon.
    Quote Originally Posted by M21Sniper
    Screw the Russians. We were ready for them then, we are ready for them now.
    Excessive self-confidence always ruined conquerors. Think of this.
    And unless Russian somewhere have disappeared? We are ready to you!
    Up to a meeting.

    P.S. You name yourself a polar bear, and you lived in tent at-45 a frost?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firral
    US army against Russian Army is much, it is a lot of blood, even excepting the nuclear weapon.
    Yes, a lot of dead Russians, no doubt about it.

    Excessive self-confidence always ruined conquerors. Think of this.
    And unless Russian somewhere have disappeared? We are ready to you!
    Up to a meeting.
    Conquerors? Read real history - it was the Russkies who were militarily aggressive in Europe (and elsewhere), not the West. There was no need for us to conquer anything, just hold Western Europe.

    And Russians disappear all the time - your population is not replacing itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firral
    P.S. You name yourself a polar bear, and you lived in tent at-45 a frost?
    Yeah, cause a pup tent is a real five star accomodation.

    Know how you turn up the heat in a pup tent?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem
    Yes, a lot of dead Russians, no doubt about it
    In my opinion I spoke something about " to Excessive confidence of "
    Quote Originally Posted by dalem
    Conquerors? Read real history - it was the Russkies who were militarily aggressive in Europe (and elsewhere), not the West. There was no need for us to conquer anything, just hold Western Europe
    Really?
    Where, when also what Russian have grasped? Against whom was in the military attitude aggressive Russian last 20 years? Do not forget to recollect about " bringing freedom " war of the USA.
    Quote Originally Posted by dalem
    And Russians disappear all the time - your population is not replacing itself.
    Hm. It also is characteristic for all Europe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Firral
    In my opinion I spoke something about " to Excessive confidence of "
    And I can say that Salma Hayek is in my bedroom waiting for me - doesn't make it true. So roll your eyes all you want, the facts are on my side - the Russian military is a dim shadow of its former self, and its former self wasn't all that great to begin with. If Russia stirred up trouble for some stupid reason now against the U.S., leaving nukes out of it (which is silly on a national conflict scale) the Russians would lose bigtime.

    Put it this way: other than metabolizing brake fluid, list three areas or specialties where the Russian armed forces have demonstrable superiority as compared to those of the U.S. We'll discuss them.

    Really?
    Where, when also what Russian have grasped? Against whom was in the military attitude aggressive Russian last 20 years? Do not forget to recollect about " bringing freedom " war of the USA.
    Are you mad? Do you remember East Germany? Lithuania? Hungary? Afghanistan? Poland?

    And the U.S. has fought wars to bring freedom to a lot of places - please be specific.

    Hm. It also is characteristic for all Europe.
    And Russia is down near the bottom. And no one immigrates TO Russia.

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    Put it this way: other than metabolizing brake fluid, list three areas or specialties where the Russian armed forces have demonstrable superiority as compared to those of the U.S. We'll discuss them.
    I also did not try to prove that Russian army surpasses army of the USA.
    Now Russia is weaker than the USA, but it does not mean at all that she can be won easily.
    Are you mad? Do you remember East Germany? Lithuania? Hungary? Afghanistan? Poland?
    Germany it has been divided under the general agreement of the countries of winners after WW2.
    Lithuania and Poland? When? Last 20 years? You rave? Throw out on a dump the school textbook of history.
    Hungary? It is a separate theme. Unfortunately I badly know English what to describe, that there was actually. I can give an example, that revolts much of participants in Hungary have been connected with SS. It was attempt of a revenge.
    Afghanistan. Perhaps the only thing. The truth it was interesting to me as would act the USA if in Mexico to authority send someone similar to talibs?

    Beans. You eat lots of beans...
    Last edited by Firral; 12 Apr 06, at 21:39.

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    //And no one immigrates TO Russia.//
    Yes anybody, beginning from Chineses and finishing inhabitants of Africa...
    Last edited by Firral; 12 Apr 06, at 21:35.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dalem
    Put it this way: other than metabolizing brake fluid, list three areas or specialties where the Russian armed forces have demonstrable superiority as compared to those of the U.S. We'll discuss them.
    1) Operational planning
    2) Artillery staturation patterns
    3) Casualty tolerance

    The Russians are specialized in rehersing battles. We train for battles. That is the big difference between us. They rehersed the battle right, it's gravy. They rehersed the battle wrong, it's graveyard.
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