Special Forces

**JOgershok** · 15 Apr 09,, 19:55

Originally Posted by oui_lexicon

dude first go through the wiki article

ya sure they dont but that is the specific details of their operations, any special ops enthusiast knows well about the battle of takur ghar, battle of tora bora.

And try to check it out, numerous books have been published on SF's, written by either former SF operatives or media correspondents who have covered their battles.

http://freebooksource.com/?p=45060

Next, you will tell me Inside Delta Force, written by Eric Haney is all true and Richard Marcinko smoked it down to 500 feet before he pulled his main as claimed in Rogue Warrior.

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**JOgershok** · 15 Apr 09,, 20:02

Originally Posted by Albany Rifles

Similiar to how SSG Barry Sadler was treated after he sang the Ballad of The Green Berets.

Most members of the Special Forces HATED that song as well as Sadler.

Most of my era hate that the uninformed refer to them as "Green Berets" in the first place. The green beret is the headgear of the soldier not the man who wears it.

He was good for recruiting though.

**Blue** · 15 Apr 09,, 20:43

Originally Posted by JOgershok

Next, you will tell me Inside Delta Force, written by Eric Haney is all true and Richard Marcinko smoked it down to 500 feet before he pulled his main as claimed in Rogue Warrior.

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I knew there must be a reason I never read either one of those.

So 500ft before pulling his main. I presume this was with standard issue equipment at the time?

**JOgershok** · 15 Apr 09,, 21:17

Originally Posted by 7thsfsniper

I knew there must be a reason I never read either one of those.

So 500ft before pulling his main. I presume this was with standard issue equipment at the time?

That was his claim.

**~~GraniteForge~~** · 16 Apr 09,, 02:09

Originally Posted by Albany Rifles

Similiar to how SSG Barry Sadler was treated after he sang the Ballad of The Green Berets.

Most members of the Special Forces HATED that song as well as Sadler.

Tough crowd. Couldn't they find even one song to like on that whole album?

**Officer of Engineers** · 16 Apr 09,, 03:18

He sang an album?

**~~GraniteForge~~** · 16 Apr 09,, 03:49

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

He sang an album?

You bet: Ballads of the Green Berets

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...0:7uddylk2xpsb

**Stitch** · 16 Apr 09,, 04:51

So, what's the general concensus on WAB with the whole Rogue Warrior series of books? Semi-factual autobiography, or pure rubbish? Some of the stuff Marcinko throws out has a ring of truth to it.

**Officer of Engineers** · 16 Apr 09,, 05:00

Originally Posted by GraniteForge

You bet: Ballads of the Green Berets

http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p...0:7uddylk2xpsb

But he can't sing!

The BALLAD OF THE GREEN BERET was an okay poem but I winced at his singing. It hurt.

**JOgershok** · 16 Apr 09,, 05:49

Originally Posted by GraniteForge

Tough crowd. Couldn't they find even one song to like on that whole album?

"Garet Trooper"

**~~oui_lexicon~~** · 16 Apr 09,, 11:09

Originally Posted by JOgershok

Next, you will tell me Inside Delta Force, written by Eric Haney is all true and Richard Marcinko smoked it down to 500 feet before he pulled his main as claimed in Rogue Warrior.

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man, its a book written by a former soldier , so his first try would be to make his presence felt, create a controversy to get some air. so of course its not all true . moreover marcinko was played down by the navy .they registered corruption charges against him (this is for real) and bullied him politically, he claims the reason was that he with his RED CELL team (the precursor to seal team six - SPECWARDEVGRU) penetrated some of the most fortified installations of us military including air force one which was an embarrasment to both navy and the us government. so he has a lot made up.

but the book i referred to you is by an sf researcher more notably a journalist and if u go thru the book the seemingly boredom of the literature is a proof that its not marcinko kind affairs. not that he wanted to write it boring but 'cuz it was a matter of solely reporting the war and the role sf's played in it.

**Triple C** · 16 Apr 09,, 11:31

I read both writers. I don't know enough about the whole Haney controversy, but Marcinko really is a jackass.

He embezzled the Navy. Besides, his prose is painful.

**Blue** · 16 Apr 09,, 15:45

What's funny about all this is that if most of us actually told the truth, no one would believe it or much less read it. So I guess I'm really just jealous that Marcinko and Haney have made a living spinning thier tales, true, embellished or not. More power to 'em! I've heard a lot of shooters give the same grief about Maj. John Plaster and his book on sniping. Of course after shutting them down on the range, I recommend they read it.

I was at a range once and some guy with a bolt action savage was bragging on his markmanship. At the time I was shooting a sub-MOA DPMS LR-308. It was a tack driver. So in a conversation he proceeded to discount Maj. Plaster, Carlos Hathcock, Chuck Mahwinney and semi-auto sniper rifles. So after out shooting him big time, he asked where I learned to shoot. I told him I only read about half of Plasters book and went out bought this rifle and that today was only the second time I ever shot a rifle. Should have seen the look on his face. Priceless.

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