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As some of my fellow yankie friends would say..... Bull C'rap..!
even tho they do 14 days... in terms of mental/physical ability its comparable.... The Kaipara sand dunes is tough even for for BSAS.
NZ topology makes it a hard place.
there is a higher intake of NZSAS/ASAS, due to 'staffing' problems with BSAS.
Many of todays regiments serving in Afghan/Iraq are doing what was deemed as SAS territory. and since tour duty is a regular occurance, soilders tend to stay with in there regiment, then go for the step up to SAS.
Last edited by Officer of Engineers; 15 Nov 08, at 23:28.
As some of my fellow yankie friends would say..... Bull C'rap..!
Wait til "no child left behind" gets adopted for the ArmyQuantity is never an issue...Quality is. The drop out rate is high and always has been, that won't change. There are lots chasing their Rainbow but few ever find the GoldI think the Marines and Navy have been using it for a while now
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I can see them rushing for their quills to write a letter of protest..do I hear the words "keelhaul"Wait til "no child left behind" gets adopted for the Army
Sim, my good man,
Good to see you. I trust the local pub has not been drank out yet and thank the heavens that the Powers that Be decided to give you a little break.
Chimo
Hmmm, not sure where you got that - but we're getting "flooded" with UK specials - in fact its now standard practice for any in the regiment (Aust) to take over extra paperwork so as to fast track the requests. Even the reserves who visisted H last year were taking paperwork over to try and reduce the load of queries wanting to transfer across.
I'd modify how you say things on this subject - as its a tad wrong.
Hello Sir
Good to be back, been off for a few months had a few things to do/deal with.
Now I have a bit of free time thought id come back and see how you dinosaurs and wab are doing.
Ahhh found me a new local.... (where ever i lay my hat...) gives us discounts at £1.50 a shot bargin in these lands, tho think he maybe starting to regret his generosity
more like pushed.... guess a break is good now and again. Allows one to sort out a few bits and bobs. Tho you cant realy get away from it all, always something to keep one occupied within work even when 'off'.
Last edited by Simullacrum; 15 Nov 08, at 19:56.
One can think whatever one likes about himself, but that does not make it so.
Special forces
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
In most countries special forces (SF) is a generic term for highly-trained military teams/units that conduct specialized operations such as reconnaissance, unconventional warfare, and counter-terrorism actions. In the United States, the term Special Operations Forces (SOF) is used instead of special forces to refer to the aforementioned units because Special Forces refers to a specific unit, the United States Army Special Forces aka "Green Berets".
Some special forces operations, such as counter-terrorism actions, may be carried out domestically under certain circumstances. Special forces units are typically composed of relatively small groups of highly-trained personnel equipped with specialist equipment and armament, operating under principles of self-sufficiency, stealth, speed, and close teamwork, often transported by helicopter, small boats or submarines, parachuting from aircraft, or stealthy infiltration by land. Special forces are sometimes considered a force multiplier, as when they train indigenous forces to fight guerrilla warfare. [1]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...Special_Forces
So as far as U.S. Forces are concerned we are the OGs! I have the utmost respect for my bretheren Rangers, SEALs, and MEUs..etc. But they realize who does what and what job belongs to whom.
Last edited by Blue; 15 Nov 08, at 19:38.
Its not a matter of what one thinks, it is a matter of what one knows.
There is no need to refrence wikipedia to me on US SOG's. Im well versed thank you.
My comment to Bull C'rap in a previous post was to the following line...... Only USSF has the role of unconventional warfare so there is no competition in that arena.
It wasent a slur to US SOG's.
Forgive me for seeming so obtuse, but I don't understand what you are saying here. Are you saying that JOs statement is incorrect? Please expound on this.
What Sim is objecting to is not only the implication that the US is top dog in unconventional warfare but that it is the only dog.Forgive me for seeming so obtuse, but I don't understand what you are saying here. Are you saying that JOs statement is incorrect? Please expound on this.
Chimo
Very well summed up, Sir.!
OK. I understand now. I am very confident that JOgershok was not meaning to imply that US forces where the only ones in this category, nor was I. I am surprised that you interpreted it that way though. I took it as he was speaking to the mission orientation of US forces only(SEALs, Rangers) which justifies his statement. I know perfectly well that other countries have thier equivalents and I would never diminish thier accomplishments or expertise. My apologies for the informational links, no condescension meant, but I did not know who I was speaking to given the lack of personal info. I referred to wiki because I didn't feel like typing it all out myself, and it was acceptably accurate info.
Not the first time we've had misconstrued statements gents, won't be the last. No hard feelings on my end anyway, besides, we are all in this together.
No offence taken, friend.
A few other SF would "disagree" with that statement also(under their breath of course)
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