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    NATO wants Indian troops to operate in Afghanistan

    According to newspaper reports, NATO - the US led western military alliance, wants Indian troops for its missions in volatile regions like Afghanistan and Kosovo. NATO officials here at Brussels, its headquarters, said Indian troops would be part of a wider engagement the alliance envisages with non-member states.

    The alliance does not expect Indian troops for its missions overnight but as a consequence of a protracted engagement that will drive policy change in New Delhi and reforms within NATO. Beginnings have been made at two levels. NATO headquarters has briefed Indian diplomats here. Its secretary-general Jaap de Hoop Schaffer has met defence minister Pranab Mukherjee.

    Pakistan's support in the U.S. lead War Against Terror (WoT) however has been conditional. General Musharraf's Regime seemed to have made it clear that an Indian presence in Afghanistan would have to be avoided.

    General Musharraf however comes under increasing pressure for not doing enough against the Taliban and Al Qaeda based in Pakistan. North Afghan leaders and on the ground U.S. and NATO officers based sections of the Pakistani establishment for aiding the anti-government insurgency in Afghanistan.

    Five years on both the Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden and the Taliban head Mullah Omar roam free, apparently within Pakistan's tribal regions in the west along the border with Afghanistan.
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    Its not the latest news.....but certainly news...

    Does anyone know what India's answer was to this ?
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    It's not gonna happen because India would want some concessions.

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    Well, with most of the European allies in NATO reneging on their alliance relationship with Britain, the US, and Canada by refusing to shoulder some of the combat in Afghanistan, I don't find it surprising that NATO is looking to nations in the region to pick up some of the slack. After all, a destablised Afghanistan will impact them the most.

    In truth, this request, I think, is more symbolic. With most continental European NATO powers refusing to do anything but coware in the essentially-safe zones of Afghanistan and let the three Anglophone NATO nations take the brunt of the casualties, it shows that NATO is a failing alliance. Continental Europe has shown that it no longer desires to fight alongside its Anglophone allies, but would rather they suffer the ills of war. Continental Europe would rather have their European Union rapid reaction force than contribute meaningfully to NATO. The end of NATO, either officially or nominally (i.e. it'll exist only on paper) is a very likely possibility in the next decade, in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    Well, with most of the European allies in NATO reneging on their alliance relationship with Britain, the US, and Canada by refusing to shoulder some of the combat in Afghanistan, I don't find it surprising that NATO is looking to nations in the region to pick up some of the slack. After all, a destablised Afghanistan will impact them the most.

    In truth, this request, I think, is more symbolic. With most continental European NATO powers refusing to do anything but coware in the essentially-safe zones of Afghanistan and let the three Anglophone NATO nations take the brunt of the casualties, it shows that NATO is a failing alliance. Continental Europe has shown that it no longer desires to fight alongside its Anglophone allies, but would rather they suffer the ills of war. Continental Europe would rather have their European Union rapid reaction force than contribute meaningfully to NATO. The end of NATO, either officially or nominally (i.e. it'll exist only on paper) is a very likely possibility in the next decade, in my opinion.
    How can you say that when more countries are joining the alliance ?
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    They're joining for political benefits mainly (join NATO and you get some of your debt forgiven - if not all - and pre-owned US equipment that makes your military half-modern for the impending Russian threat of Putin).

    I'm referring to NATO as a military alliance; i.e. what it is supposed to be (even though it's morphed into a quasi-political organisation since the end of the Cold War) ... Afghanistan is proving day-after-day that NATO as a military alliance is failing. Some ex-Soviet nations are contributing to the Afghanistan mission as they join NATO, but compared to the continental European powers, these nations are inconsequential in the future of NATO as a military alliance.

    Without those powers willing to participate equally in the military alliance (i.e. engage in combat alongside the US, Canada, and UK), then the alliance can gobble up all the minor ex-Soviet nations it wants - it isn't going to change the fact that it's a doomed military alliance. You might as well start calling NATO the "North Atlantic Anglophone Alliance, with Australia and former Soviet friends," as it's fast becoming just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott View Post
    They're joining for political benefits mainly (join NATO and you get some of your debt forgiven - if not all - and pre-owned US equipment that makes your military half-modern for the impending Russian threat of Putin).

    I'm referring to NATO as a military alliance; i.e. what it is supposed to be (even though it's morphed into a quasi-political organisation since the end of the Cold War) ... Afghanistan is proving day-after-day that NATO as a military alliance is failing. Some ex-Soviet nations are contributing to the Afghanistan mission as they join NATO, but compared to the continental European powers, these nations are inconsequential in the future of NATO as a military alliance.

    Without those powers willing to participate equally in the military alliance (i.e. engage in combat alongside the US, Canada, and UK), then the alliance can gobble up all the minor ex-Soviet nations it wants - it isn't going to change the fact that it's a doomed military alliance. You might as well start calling NATO the "North Atlantic Anglophone Alliance, with Australia and former Soviet friends," as it's fast becoming just that.
    They are just frustated by the little amount of assistance they are receiving by pakistan..
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    Sending Indian troops to Afghanistan is a bad idea, Indian Govt may not withstand politicle turmoil which rises because of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sun View Post
    Sending Indian troops to Afghanistan is a bad idea, Indian Govt may not withstand politicle turmoil which rises because of that.
    Yeah... i agree. What about air support ?
    Our AF will get target practice exercise.. )
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    I dont even think it will happen. When Pakistan is already helping. Why should India help then. Wont happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dude View Post
    I dont even think it will happen. When Pakistan is already helping. Why should India help then. Wont happen.
    Pakistan isnt helping enough...thats why NATO has approached us.
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    Not really, Pakistan has been doing its bit, NATO wants them to do more, but Pakistan aint so forthcoming with its help on the border pursuit. To its credit, its not an easy job for PA to do.
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    no way !
    it's their mess they got themselves into that quagmire, they never helped us
    1. during 25yrs of terrorism in kashmir
    2. during the ic814 hijacking
    3. after the parliament attack
    4. mumbai bombings
      innumerable instances other than this

    india has being crying itself hoarse at all international forums about pakistan's hand in terrorism now that they are on the receiving end they think we'll come help them , i say sorry i do not agree to having our men be terrorist bait while americans sitting in airconditioned offices in texas use predators to hunt them.

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    That is extremely far from the truth.

    And your screaming was ignored in part because you were perceived to be Soviet camp while Pakistan was clearly in our camp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bengalraider View Post
    no way !
    it's their mess they got themselves into that quagmire, they never helped us
    1. during 25yrs of terrorism in kashmir
    2. during the ic814 hijacking
    3. after the parliament attack
    4. mumbai bombings
      innumerable instances other than this

    india has being crying itself hoarse at all international forums about pakistan's hand in terrorism now that they are on the receiving end they think we'll come help them , i say sorry i do not agree to having our men be terrorist bait while americans sitting in airconditioned offices in texas use predators to hunt them.
    Forceful..... I'm impressed
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