Thread: Turkey unveils new indigenous rifles for Land Forces...

MKEK made G-3s perform acceptably, if not perfectly, provided that regular preventive maintainance is applied as necessary.

I have had the chance to use both Turkish and German copies during my time in service, and I did not notice a significant difference in performance. I do not have on hands experience about MP-5s.

Overall, our peace time maintainance levels are low, and I agree that the average G-3 in the TAF is not "top notch". In active combat units however, G-3s are used with adequate performance withouth major complaints.

I do not know about the difference in Turkish and German production methods, so I would appreciate Public Enemy's feedback on this.

Originally Posted by omon

it is a rifle build from custom parts, ideas aren,t new, new stell doesn,t make it a new rifle, neither does slightly resheped stock, it is a remake at best.
the only new and prbly indigenous rifle that came out recantly, is abakan.

Magpul Masada, now called the Bushmaster ACR

TAR-21 Tavor

FN SCAR

Either of those, just for starts, ring any bells?

Originally Posted by Stan187

Magpul Masada, now called the Bushmaster ACR

TAR-21 Tavor

FN SCAR

Either of those, just for starts, ring any bells?

Magpul Masada, pretty much reshaped ar, same barrel, same trigger group, similar bolt, the same way of operating, just more plastic, nothing revolutionary,
TAR-21 Tavor, modernized aug, same 2 guading rails as aug, similar bolt, gas mechanizm, noiting revolutionary, just reshaped, reworked aug. you even take them both apart the same way, by removing butt plate.
FN SCAR, lol, similar lower as ar, same trigger group, same barrel, recoil spring moved on top, nothing revolutionary, improved ar.

not a single one of them is new consept.

you seem to not understand what new consept is, and what is a improved remake. there is a difference, a big one.

got anymore???? i like when you make yourself look stupid.

now name a single weapon (production, not prototype) that was designed in the last 20 years that has uniqe, and revolutionary way of operation, as abakan does?????

Originally Posted by omon

Magpul Masada, pretty much reshaped ar, same barrel, same trigger group, similar bolt, the same way of operating, just more plastic, nothing revolutionary,
TAR-21 Tavor, modernized aug, same 2 guading rails as aug, similar bolt, gas mechanizm, noiting revolutionary, just reshaped, reworked aug. you even take them both apart the same way, by removing butt plate.
FN SCAR, lol, similar lower as ar, same trigger group, same barrel, recoil spring moved on top, nothing revolutionary, improved ar.

not a single one of them is new consept.

you seem to not understand what new consept is, and what is a improved remake. there is a difference, a big one.

got anymore???? i like when you make yourself look stupid.

now name a single weapon (production, not prototype) that was designed in the last 20 years that has uniqe, and revolutionary way of operation, as abakan does?????

The Masada is just an AR clone? The SCAR is just an AR clone? Because they use the same trigger group/lowers and barrels they are the same guns? The AN-94 uses a "lower" just like an AK. Even the pistol grip and magazines are the same, omg it must be a repackaged AK . God forbid if designers actually made the logistical and egronomic transition from one firearm to another smoother. You not only self-contradictory, but less intelligent than I gave credit for. No worries, etu oshibku ya povtoryat ne budu .

And a Tavor is the same thing as an AUG? And oh goodness they even come apart in a similar manner? Guess what, most bullpups do, that doesn't mean they're all the same thing. Let me guess, a F2000 is also the same thing, because its a bullpup. Oh no! They even use the same magazines as an AR! They're just repackaged ARs! Phew, luckily you and your logic were there to point out our folly... I suppose by that same logic a Bradley and an Abrams are also the same thing, since you know they both have tracks and a turret.

Go ahead dude, keep making yourself look rediculous, everyone else is just popping popcorn and having a good laugh at you.

You're right about one thing. I certainly don't understand what a new "consept" is, I've never heard that word before. Nice talking to you, you're funnier to watch than Reno 911, though granted a tad less eloquent, but I'm willing to let that go.

Originally Posted by Stan187

The Masada is just an AR clone? The SCAR is just an AR clone? Because they use the same trigger group/lowers and barrels they are the same guns? The AN-94 uses a "lower" just like an AK. Even the pistol grip and magazines are the same, omg it must be a repackaged AK . God forbid if designers actually made the logistical and egronomic transition from one firearm to another smoother. You not only self-contradictory, but less intelligent than I gave credit for. No worries, etu oshibku ya povtoryat ne budu .

And a Tavor is the same thing as an AUG? And oh goodness they even come apart in a similar manner? Guess what, most bullpups do, that doesn't mean they're all the same thing. Let me guess, a F2000 is also the same thing, because its a bullpup. Oh no! They even use the same magazines as an AR! They're just repackaged ARs! Phew, luckily you and your logic were there to point out our folly... I suppose by that same logic a Bradley and an Abrams are also the same thing, since you know they both have tracks and a turret.

Go ahead dude, keep making yourself look rediculous, everyone else is just popping popcorn and having a good laugh at you.

You're right about one thing. I certainly don't understand what a new "consept" is, I've never heard that word before. Nice talking to you, you're funnier to watch than Reno 911, though granted a tad less eloquent, but I'm willing to let that go.

lmao, whatever dude, i build my first .22 before you was born, there is absolutely nothing you can tell me that i don,t already know.

ifrc you were telling me german stamped reciver is better than milled one, you are the one who had no idea cz made rifles. i rest my case. you fail.

you are nothing but a ignorant teen who watched too much tv, and internet, and think you know it all, fail again.

btw, an only shares mag, and grip with ak, no other parts is alike.go over an thread there are pics, you'll see how bad you fail.

btw, are you still israli citizen?