Thread: Overrated US Armed forces

Originally Posted by glyn

You are just quoting what a member of the forum has said. It was disputed. What are you going to add to the discussion? If you have a point of view express it, ideally with facts from your own experience or giving references or links.

The progression of the discussion, as far as I am concerned, so far:

1) AlbanyRifles opines that British/Commonwealth Regimental System is inefficient for large-scale armies.

2) Lemontree diagrees with AR by using the Indian Army as an example of a large-scale army still using Regimental System.

3) I, Cactus, point out to Lemontree that Indian Army has modified the Regimental System to a quite different institution.

3.5) After some discussion I pose a question asking about why Indian Army felt it necessary to modify the system after 1962, Lemontree mentioned various administrative problems with the old system.

4) To end this small discussion, I pointed that this same conclusion was the point of divergence between AR and Lemontree. Now we have two large-scale armies, one which has felt it wise to completely abandon Regimental System and another that has mutated it beyond recognition. But essentially we have reached back AR's point (unless Lemontree has more to add).

I have made my point with Lemontree with the example of the Punjab Regiment, I can make it again with half a dozen other Indian regiments that have seen post-1962 expansion. I didn't need to reference it, because I had a pretty good hunch that Lemontree knows exactly what I am talking about. As it turned out, he did know what I was talking about. Since he came to a similar conclusion as the one AlbanyRifles and I held, it was perfectly appropriate to point out that we are back to approaching the point of divergence. It is upto Lemontree to agree if we have reached it or not.

Originally Posted by Simullacrum

Unsure whether im not makeing myself clear, or whether you not able to read what I write.

I Wrote down 'some Commonwealth Countreis'.
I also stated 'some American Forces depending on what branch'.

Every one has the notion of entitlement, to do or say things, whether it is founded, relevant or important is a matter of judgment from others, time will tell.
As for my own judgedment your entitlement is rather meaningless on this matter as you have not experienced, anything of that nature.

everything is not fine, and we know and understand what will probbaly occurr....we just get on with thejob, that we have to do, thats the way things are done here.

there are some yanks that I dont have a problem working with, and glad to... and others that I dont.... push comes to shove if those are my orders to work with those that I think are inept of doing the specific job...
I will follow orders, but the saftey of my men comes first, not some inept inbred who hassent a f'ucking clue but im still bound to take orders from, because of jobsworth...!!!

Yea Sim , but certain jobsworths can become casualties in the field ,,, cant they

Originally Posted by S-2

Sir, didn't you suggest to the Brigadier the great skill and reliance of the CDF upon your own reservists?

As individuals, without a doubt, I will rate them against any in the world ... but as a unit? I've got 15% of the regforce budget and less than a 3rd of parade days. Without 30 days of prep, I would be very hesitant of pitting my res regt against my regforce regt. The regforce would use those 30 days to field an entire battle group since they are already upto standards.

I'm not doubting the NG but trying to grasp how they managed to field these units with far less parade days than the regforce.

What reserve Regiment are you with Sir? That's quite a compliment you pay to reservists!

When you have PhDs as your sgts, it's hard not to have good people. I was with 2FER before moving up to 33CBG.

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

I was with 2FER before moving up to 33CBG.

2FER and 33CBG? I'm sorry I don't have them all memorized and really only know the BC Regiments abbreviations other than the big ones out East.

EDI// My partner and I have been talking this over and she wants to join too when we go to Canada. Will the allow an Australian on a defacto visa join the reserves? It's going to be rough joining with her though as she's one of those people that works so hard she makes everyone else look bad. Basically I don't want her to show me up!

2nd Fd Engrs Regt and the 33 Cdn Bde Group.

Unfortunately for your partner, no, she cannot join. She needs to be a Landed Immigrant.

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

She needs to be a Landed Immigrant.

As opposed to a Launched Immigrant?? I know,I know Colonel..."Go stuff yerself Shamus"

Actually, I would've ordered you to dig the latrines.

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Actually, I would've ordered you to dig the latrines.

Do they have double-sized ones?

They're usually called anti-tank trenches. Depending on what Shamus ate, it might be crimes-against-humanity.

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Actually, I would've ordered you to dig the latrines.

Been there,done that,Sir....rather dig 'em than fill 'em back in .

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

They're usually called anti-tank trenches. Depending on what Shamus ate, it might be crimes-against-humanity.

WMD for sure Colonel.....kielbasa,cabbage,onions and corned beef.......duck and cover .

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

2nd Fd Engrs Regt and the 33 Cdn Bde Group.

Unfortunately for your partner, no, she cannot join. She needs to be a
Landed Immigrant.

Okay cool so after the 2 years she gets permanant residency and will a landed inmmigrant then I think.

Thank you sir!