India Vs. China (borderline War)

**667medic** · 07 Jan 07,, 15:49

Man Archer I really love you.

Just how do you manage to organize your thoughts to write in such a clear and concise manner

**MarquezRazor** · 07 Jan 07,, 16:06

Originally Posted by Archer

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But then theres the more basic fact- that in India, free press means that all warts and all, are open for display.

And criticism!

**Ray** · 07 Jan 07,, 17:18

Leftists are PIGS.

They live off the scum of the earth!

**667medic** · 07 Jan 07,, 17:38

Originally Posted by Ray

Leftists are PIGS.

They live off the scum of the earth!

But you have to give it to the Indian commies for being such an organized force. BTW I have always been puzzled about whether the Commies have any influence on the Naxalites.....

**lemontree** · 08 Jan 07,, 04:01

Is gamercube Arundhati Roy?

**Deltacamelately** · 17 Oct 07,, 12:35

Originally Posted by metalbeast

China is revamping it's army to be smaller, but better supplied, and equiped. India on the other hand has huge logistical problem that China has had and has right now with the amount of weapons which one could consider redundant in artillery for example. India has all kinds of artillery of different calibres, weights, and ranges. To minimize complexity of supply nations like the USA and Russia primarily support two kinds of gun artillery on the battlefield. India supplies all the guns of USA and Russia. Chinese are looking for better equipment, simplier supplying of it's armed forces. They thinking about increasing the Navy as well. In my opinion I think China would win. I think China is more industrialized than India. With the modernizing of the military, China will be better in logistics.

Lemontree, Sir...seems to me that Mr.Metalbeast is far more informed about InA's RTs than all here, combined. I am very interested to know the said "Two Catagories". However..here's some....
The Indian Army fields the following(Declassified)

105 mm Indian Field Gun
105 mm Light Field Gun
105 mm M-46 Catapult
155 mm Bhim T-6 self-propelled gun (Joint development with South Africa)
214 mm Pinaka Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher
All Weather Air Defence Gun System (AWADGS)
2.75 inch (70 mm) Mountain Gun (World War I)
130 mm Abbot
75 mm/24 Pounder Indian Mountain Gun
155 mm metamorphasis gun
76 mm mountain gun
100 mm M-1944
51 mm E1 lightweight platoon mortar
81 mm E1 light mortar
81 mm long range mortar
120 mm E1 light mortar
88 mm 25 pounder howitzer
180 mm S-23
40 mm Bofors L/70 anti-aircraft gun (upgraded variant)
40 mm Bofors L/60 anti-aircraft gun (upgraded variant)
94 mm 3.7 inch Mountain Howitzer
(Rest: Classified)

**Cactus** · 17 Oct 07,, 16:26

Originally Posted by Deltacamelately

I am very interested to know the said "Two Catagories".

For US gun artillery they are: 105mm and 155mm.

**n21** · 18 Oct 07,, 12:50

Originally Posted by Deltacamelately

155 mm Bhim T-6 self-propelled gun (Joint development with South Africa)

Has this entered IA service? That is surprising.
I thought the development was terminated after the South African bribery fisaco!

**Deltacamelately** · 19 Oct 07,, 11:18

Originally Posted by n21

Has this entered IA service? That is surprising.
I thought the development was terminated after the South African bribery fisaco!

Plz don't get surprised.... we always nuture few workarounds!

**MarquezRazor** · 19 Oct 07,, 11:22

Originally Posted by Deltacamelately

Lemontree, Sir...seems to me that Mr.Metalbeast is far more informed about InA's RTs than all here, combined. I am very interested to know the said "Two Catagories". However..here's some....
The Indian Army fields the following(Declassified)

105 mm Indian Field Gun
105 mm Light Field Gun
105 mm M-46 Catapult
155 mm Bhim T-6 self-propelled gun (Joint development with South Africa)
214 mm Pinaka Multi Barrel Rocket Launcher
All Weather Air Defence Gun System (AWADGS)
2.75 inch (70 mm) Mountain Gun (World War I)
130 mm Abbot
75 mm/24 Pounder Indian Mountain Gun
155 mm metamorphasis gun
76 mm mountain gun
100 mm M-1944
51 mm E1 lightweight platoon mortar
81 mm E1 light mortar
81 mm long range mortar
120 mm E1 light mortar
88 mm 25 pounder howitzer
180 mm S-23
40 mm Bofors L/70 anti-aircraft gun (upgraded variant)
40 mm Bofors L/60 anti-aircraft gun (upgraded variant)
94 mm 3.7 inch Mountain Howitzer
(Rest: Classified)

Errmm...where is the above info from?

Bhim T6 hasnt entered service.Where is Bofors FH-77B 155 mm gun in the above list?

**Deltacamelately** · 21 Oct 07,, 11:46

Originally Posted by MarquezRazor

Errmm...where is the above info from?

Bhim T6 hasnt entered service.Where is Bofors FH-77B 155 mm gun in the above list?

That's true Bhim T6 hasn't entered service. But again as I said the task is taken care of with some workarounds. Bofors isn't mentioned true again. I've already maintained that rest are classified...though Bofors is well known and have served well in the past...specially during Kargil wars.

**n21** · 21 Oct 07,, 13:21

Originally Posted by Deltacamelately

That's true Bhim T6 hasn't entered service. But again as I said the task is taken care of with some workarounds. Bofors isn't mentioned true again. I've already maintained that rest are classified...though Bofors is well known and have served well in the past...specially during Kargil wars.

T6 is one of the most powerful gun in the world. I would like to know how it has fared in IA, if those details are not classified. Bhim being a DRDO product,wonder how it has gone down with IA.

It is a big irony that companies which supplies the best equipment to Indian Forces like Bofors,AMR,T6,HDW Subs did it paying bribes to the babus & ministers!

**MarquezRazor** · 21 Oct 07,, 16:12

Originally Posted by Deltacamelately

That's true Bhim T6 hasn't entered service. But again as I said the task is taken care of with some workarounds. Bofors isn't mentioned true again. I've already maintained that rest are classified...though Bofors is well known and have served well in the past...specially during Kargil wars.

Really?Thats great.T6 is a real good gun.And IA really needs some self propelled artillery.

By work around do you mean some Indian co is manufacturing Denel guns under tech transfer and an Indian name?

BTW..apart from that I think that other old SPA types have been retired already?

**Deltacamelately** · 24 Oct 07,, 09:14

All that I can tell you is that at the Unit level there's a grapevine wherein the guys talk of the concept of "Jugar Technology".

Jokes apart...you are correct that certain SPAs though they exist on paper have been phased out or atleast are not into active service.

**chowchow** · 28 Oct 07,, 17:02

Can someone post a familiar photo i remember in LIfe Magazine where they showed a PLA trooper armed with a SKS sternly facing across each other an Indian trooper with a FAL? this was in the late 1960s. A photo ops .