M1A2 vs. Leopard 2

**Homer** · 27 Aug 03,, 19:03

Originally Posted by Stinger

Blasphemy Ross, you can never have a gun thats too big.

Most women would agree you with you too....

**bigross86** · 27 Aug 03,, 19:33

Originally Posted by Homer

Originally Posted by Stinger

Blasphemy Ross, you can never have a gun thats too big.

Most women would agree you with you too....

Not necassarily. Can you imagine two feet long? I doubt too many women would like that. Besides, every time you wanted to have some fun you'd pass out!

**Ironduke** · 27 Aug 03,, 19:38

Unless you desire doing a cavernous, loose woman, anywhere from 5-7 inches is adequate. Anything over than that is a waste. Most women are 4-5 inches deep.

**bigross86** · 27 Aug 03,, 19:44

Ain't it amazing how this thread got hijacked? Not my fault either. (Not entirely, anyway...)

**UnitedDiversity** · 08 Sep 03,, 21:23

Back to topic.

M1A2, great tank, deadly weapons. One major problem. It's heavy tonnage will not operate in most South and Eastern Asian terran as well as many other muddy parts of the world because the tank will sink into the mud. Also an autoloader would be very very nice, plus alittle more sophiscated self defence systems will be nice.

Leopard 2, less armor, and ofcourse not as strong as the Abrams, but it'll work in most terrans.

**axl** · 18 Sep 03,, 07:20

1. there is no leopard 3
2. there is no leopard 2a7
3. leopard 2a6 is in service and still equipped with a 120mm gun.

Originally posted by UnitedDiversity

Leopard 2, less armor, and ofcourse not as strong as the Abrams, but it'll work in most terrans.

and from what children's book you've got your knowledge about the leopard 2? first of all there are around 20 versions of this tank. second one "less armour" is a naked statement. where would that be? "of course not as strong as the abrams" is kinda like crap, no? what is not as strong, the taste or the smell?

regards
axl

**Bill** · 18 Sep 03,, 08:06

I thought the 2A6 had the 140mm, and was scheduled to replace the 2A5, but was not in service yet.

What model has the 140mm?

Ignore United Diversity, he doesn't know much of anything.

**axl** · 18 Sep 03,, 09:24

the a6 has longer l55 gun with caliber 120mm. it will not replace the a5, but the a5 will be upgraded to a6 standard.

there is no leo2 version with a 140mm gun. prototypes have been tested but that's it. this gun has been planed for the third step of the leopard 2 combat improvement program, but this has been canceled.

regards
axl

**Bill** · 18 Sep 03,, 15:40

Roger that, it's hard enough to keep up with all the US military developments, let alone what the rest of NATO is doing.

Thanx for the clarifications.

**Ironduke** · 22 Sep 03,, 00:09

Originally posted by M21Sniper
I thought the 2A6 had the 140mm, and was scheduled to replace the 2A5, but was not in service yet.

What model has the 140mm?

Ignore United Diversity, he doesn't know much of anything.

140mm? They have a tank gun that big?

**Praxus** · 22 Sep 03,, 02:24

The Leo2A6 weighs just as much as the M1A2. The Leo2A3 I believe weighs 55 tons and I think thats where he got the difference in weight from.

**Bill** · 22 Sep 03,, 07:37

Yeah, the German's have been tinkering with a 140mm for a couple years now.

The old M-60A2 had a 152mm gun.

**axl** · 22 Sep 03,, 07:44

not only the germans, the usa and switzerland did the same.
the 152mm gun of m60a2 and sheridan is different. the caliber was that large, coz it should fire also the shillelagh missile. this gun also had no kinetic energy round, just heat and hesh.

regards
axl

**Bill** · 22 Sep 03,, 07:51

The 152mm was really a demolition gun.

The engineers loved the thing.

**axl** · 22 Sep 03,, 07:57

the engineers? why that? as far as i know they used the m728 combat engineer vehicle with a 165mm demolition gun. this gun is different from what the m60a2 or the sheridan were using.

regards
axl