Thread: Which is the best tank?

I don't wanna trump Israeli equipment or soldiers just cause I'm Israeli, but the IDF has fought some fairly tough wars. 1973 was especially tough beacuse of the Intel breakdown.

As for an adaptive enemy, I think the Egyptians played that role fairly well up to a point in the Yom-Kippur War.

The War of Attrition was tasking and demanding as well, due to the fact that no official war was declared and the situation was mainly like it is today with the Intifada.

From 1982-2000 in the Peace of Galilee war Israel was forced to fight in both an urban and non-urban battlezone. One example of the IDF apating was using AAA units sch as the Machbet (An M61A1 Vulcan and a pod of Stinger missiles an on M-113 chassis) again's terrorists and against buildings.

I'm no expert on the subject and I'm eager to learn, so I await your comments, Ray, OOE, and everyone else

The measure of any good army is not when things go right but when things go wrong. By that measure, none of Israel's enemies can be counted as a good army.

Than by the same extension the IDF can be called a good army, due to the clusterf**k that the Yom Kippur war was

I never said that it wasn't. I only said that it is unfair to compare the IsDF to the rest of the world's armies that had faced tougher oppenants than the IsDF.

Just because the IsDF didn't face a Soviet Army Group does not mean that it couldn't have defeated one, though the odds are stacked against it.

Israeli Generals also decry the loss of training and doctrinal development as a result of the Intifada. As bad as some of the fighting was in the Palestinian camps, it ain't nothing compared to Operation Thunder Run.

There are no good peaceway ways of using "when things go wrong" measure because things only go bad during actual war. The only thing you can measure is what kind of resources you get to react with. In that case, Western C4ISR got the upper hand but that is purely a resource measure, not a solution devising measure.

Just goes to show that it's the training and not just the equipment.

The Americans just won the last round of the CANAM Trophy, pitting a company of American M1A2 tanks against a company of Canadian Leo C2 tanks. The difference was the Americans score two hits more out of 36 (both night and day shoots).

In the six years of competition, it's now 3-3.

The CANAM Trophy is the decendent of the NATO Tank Gunnery Compeition, AKA The Canadian Trophy.