griftadan

Has anyone ever played this game? its my more recent addiciton, its partially why i havent been around here for the past month

for those unfamiliar, the game's alot like age of empires and civilization, but much more indepth, and with much greater graphics. plus the battles are actually realistic

is there anyone here who owns the game who would want to play me online?

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dalem

I borrowed it from a friend and thought I'd hate it. Turns out I played it like a crack addict plays "forget to eat" all through the Xmas holidays. No mods, no changes, just the straight game, and I loved it.

I suspect you will too.

-dale

cooldw57

I bought the "Medieval: Total War", it is REAAALL FUN It's awesome to see 50,000 3D units on your screen the same time! Sys requirement is a bit high though, on my Pen III 1GHz it feels like "beautiful slideshow"

The Chap

I'm a victim too. We should set up a bloody support network. Now get y'mates to buy you a PS2 and "Shadow of Rome" (best played with the builders after they're done of a day) and start writing letters to your sweetheart.

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Prosto ILya

Rome: Total War!
The Seleucid Empire and silver shield pike men.
Macedonian phalanx and german chosen axe man!
And , of course, Carthage!
Noble Archers of Scythia!
Too many “!”...

griftadan

its all good, but it always seems that fights against the legions are unfair, as the have to most diverse and versital troop selection. when managed right, theyre pretty much invincible

one of the best units in the game is the arcani. hide them by some seemingly exposed archers, and you screw someones strategy up royaly

lwarmonger

Yeah, but numbers always help... The Romans are somewhat uncoordinated, as their seven starting cities are divided between four different factions, one which does not expand (the senate). Most non Roman factions start off with 4 to 6 territories united under one banner. I find that in most of my single player games the Gauls provide quite a stumbling block for the Romans, although Carthage's performance is alarmingly poor.

For multiplayer battles, it is probably best to adopt one of two strategies (depending on your non-Roman nation). Either adopt stiff line tactics with your phalanxes, and use elephants/cavalry to disrupt the Roman lines so that they hit your spearwall peacemeal (in a straight up match, top of the line phalanx troops will defeat their more manueverable legionary opponents) with cavalry/skirmishers shielding the flanks... or adopt a war of manuever using Chariots or horse archers. The Parthians have excellent heavy cavalry, and with their camels and horse archers, you can keep the Roman cavalry away from your archers while you eat up the Roman infantry. That is just my experience with playing against Romans.

Prosto ILya

Legions are impressive in troops-to-troop fighting, but their cavalry…
Praetorian Cavalry are good, but not good enough – 2-moves to build and price… well, not cheap.
Their archers are nothing compares to Barbarians (Gallic Forest Warband is a cheater unit, that’s for sure) and Romans have no phalanx.
In Multiplayer combat Romans have problems (well, I did, at least) with Germans and Seleucid. Germans have cheap phalanx (no other barbarian nation has anything like this) – 240 man ideal to stop any roman Cavalry attacks, well trained Chosen Axmen and War Band archers.
Seleucid had Silver shield pike men (only Spartans are better than this sharp-and-point death), copy of roman Legionary (much better than Numidian and Armenian variant) and super heavy cavalary - cath... cathr... кафраты (even better than Pontus). But their archers… Not impressive.
Egypt can also byte a peace of pink Roman butt. Pharaoh’s Bodyguard to stop cavalary, Desert Axemen for skirmish, Pharaoh’s Archers to make keep quick roman archers at bay and chariots for little chaos among enemy troops.

p.s.
Can someone give a good advice, how ,actually, to win campaign for Britain and Scythia?
Ehh…

lwarmonger

Well, my British campaign is not done yet, but I'm currently controlling all of Gaul, Spain, and working my way into Italy (Julii are down to two cities, and one of them is Sardinia... settings are the hardest one for campaign map and just the hard setting for battles). Fight the Gauls early, and take your opponents on one by one. Once you've crushed the Gauls, Spain and the remnants of the Carthaginians are next. After that, I had sufficient numbers to begin taking on the Romans (who had conquered Northern Italy and Massillia). Numbers are the key. I don't storm cities, I just siege them (thus preserving my numbers), keeping several field armies about to keep the Romans away from my sieging forces (even if they broke through, their numbers were so depleted they didn't do anything but give me an opportunity to defeat the garrison and end the siege quicker), but it is important to take the Romans on before they get their legions. I allied with the Germans to keep them off my back, and they were kept occupied with a war with the Dacians and later the Thracians.

Havn't played as Scythia yet.

Ironduke

I played Medieval Total War. Which one is newer?

Prosto ILya

Rome is newer.
Rome: Total War is about 6 months old.



2 lwarmonger

Thanks for an advice. But I am afraid my tactical abilities just not good enough. Britain has no cavalry (chariots hardly match for ordinary barbarian cavalry, not to mention heavy German riders), no archers. When I start open confrontation with Rome (about 202 b.c.) they already has Roman Cavalry and early legionaries.
Well, will have to start all over again.

ChrisF202

The Spartan guys are the best, one unit of them (on huge unit size which i think is 260) with 1 gold chevron and silver shield and sword upgrades they cant take on 6,000+ and annilate the whole enemy army with little if any casulties. Now I have no doubt in my mind that 300 Spartans easily held off 300,000 Persians for 3 days .

lwarmonger

Yeah, there is your problem. As Britain, it is essential to take on the Romans before they get legions. I've tried a couple of custom battles as the Britons vs the Romans with the Romans possessing legions, and in that situation, the Brits really don't have a unit that can stand up to the Romans. The Romans have their early legionaries now, but I'm able to produce so many warbands and swordsmen that even when I lose battles (which is happening more and more often), I so deplete the Roman formations that they can't replace their losses before they lose another city. But once the Romans get a good city base, and their legions, you really don't have a chance as the Britons.

Insofar as the British Chariots are concerned, I find that they generally aren't very good against other cavalry, and I don't try to use them as such. Instead, I send them out ahead of my infantry. I bash holes in the enemies lines with them, because they do have a lot of hitting power, and then send my infantry against the disorganized enemy formations. Biggest problem with the Britains is countering enemy cavalry though, because they really don't have a good unit to use against them.

griftadan

ehhhh, i play on normal unit scale. 240 men? i gotta try that sometime. soooo

i never play campaign to much anymore, after beating all the interesting ones (bruttii, greeks, carthage and seluecids), but it would be fun if you could somehow set up away to play campaign online. but id imagine youd be waiting forever for your opponents to make their moves...

so i just play online battles, where you can just hand pick your units. im usually rome or carthage. a line of about 6 first legionary cohorts, packed close, no more than 5 men deep..
backed up by a few urban cohorts with triarii at the flanks, backed with some archers and preatorian calvavry. if you withdrawl from the center slowly, you can surround most phalanx formations

im no good at dealing with chariots or skirmisher cavalry... ill figure it out eventually. all i can figure is fight fire with fire, load up on artillery..

any advice dealing with that using romans?

my second favourite has to be the seleucids.. very versatile

lwarmonger

Yeah. I would have to say that they and the Egyptians are the best in terms of unit selection. I am actually very disappointed with the Carthaginians. They lack any type of redeeming qualities.