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if i recall correctly South Carolina decided to not break from the Union, because they realized that their boasts meant nothing and that by joining the South they would only worsten their economy, not because Jackson was stupid enough to send the army and navy.
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Abe Lincoln was the greatest president, barely equal to George Washington. Abe Lincoln was a giant who walked on earth. One of the greatest human figures in the history of mankind and you call him one of the worst presidents? You are truly a moron. |
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I agree with you on the Lincoln part, but i think that Washington is given too much credit. You insinuate that he was a very good president, but you are basing these ideas on the fact that Washignton was a hero of the Revolutionary War, and not on his Presidential career. His character of hero in the war overshadows his minute decisions and agreements as president of the US. People give him so much credit just because he was a general, but that has nothing to do with his later career as President (except that that is why the people chose him), or because he was the first President, which once again has nothing to do with his Presidential life (except that he was lucky, and the people only loved him because he was a General in the war). Washington was a great man, but all his great deeds are form the revolutionary war. As the President he was ordinary. His founding-father status is what drives people to think that he was a magnificent and perfect President. |
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Oh Mr. Locke, you disappoint me by your views of President Washington. And you are a professor?
Washington’s contribution to American victory was enormous, and analysis of his leadership reveals much about the nature of the military and political conflict. As a conservative, he was determined to show that American officers could be every bit as civilized and genteel as their European counterparts. He convinced many Americans of the need for a stronger government. Washington and other Virginia nationalists were instrumental in bringing about the Constitutional Convention of 1787 to promote that end. Elected president in 1788 and AGAIN in 1792, his stiff dignity and sense of propriety postponed the emergence of the fierce partisanship that would characterize the administrations of his three successors—John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and James Madison. Washington made several decisions of far-reaching importance: During Washington's 2nd Administration, the outbreak of war between revolutionary France and a coalition led by Britain, Prussia, and Austria in 1793 jeopardized American foreign policy and crippled Jefferson’s rival foreign policy design (Jefferson was PRO-FRANCE ya know). Washington insisted, over Jefferson’s reservations, that the U.S. denounce Genêt and remain neutral in the war between France and Britain. Washington’s anti-French leanings, coupled with the aggressive attitude of the new regime in France toward the U.S., thus served to bring about the triumph of Hamilton’s pro-British foreign policy—formalized by Jay’s Treaty of 1795, WHICH SETTLED OUTSTANDING AMERICAN DIFFERENCES WITH BRITAIN. Shortly after the president’s death, an Episcopal clergyman, Mason Locke Weems, wrote a fanciful life of Washington for children, stressing the great man’s honesty, piety, hard work, patriotism, and wisdom. Washington has long served as a symbol of American identity along with the flag, the Constitution, and the Fourth of July. As later historians have examined closely the ideas of the Founding Fathers and the nature of warfare in the Revolution, they have come to the conclusion that Washington’s specific contributions to the new nation were, if anything, somewhat underestimated by earlier scholarship. George Washington had an important role in shaping America as it stands today. George Washington was much more than ordinary. |
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1. LBJ-Horrible politics, little correct moral, unwise decisions.
2. Carter-Believed he could actually end the Mid-East crisis, and screwed everything-up. 3. Clinton-Did absolutely NOTHING, half-dissolved the military, and was credited with improving the economy. 4. Nixon-Was just plain bad for so many reasons, it scares me. 5. FDR-prolonged the great depression IMO, but I must say after the great depression, he did a half-way decent job leading the country. |
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1. Jimmy Carter. Could have been a great president in a perfect world. Unfortunately he came to the presidency in an imperfect world and he didn't have a clue how to cope with that.
2. Woodrow Wilson. Thought he could bring us peace. Unfortunatly he and his buddies at versailles ended up laying the base for an even bigger war and ethnic clensings around the world. He also gave us the blue print for an incompetent world organisation. 3. Andrew Johnson. Congress had to try to impeach him in order to get anything done. Took back all the reforms the civil war generals had done to help the freed slaves. 4. Ulysses S. Grant. Made a great general, but a bad politician. You're only as good as the people around you and Grant had the most corrupt and incompetent cabinet you'll see outside the parliamentary system.
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No man is free until all men are free - John Hossack I agree completely with this Administration’s goal of a regime change in Iraq-John Kerry even if that enforcement is mostly at the hands of the United States, a right we retain even if the Security Council fails to act-John Kerry He may even miscalculate and slide these weapons off to terrorist groups to invite them to be a surrogate to use them against the United States. It’s the miscalculation that poses the greatest threat-John Kerry |
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Lee had the uncanny ability to read ground and to take ground and deny the advantage of ground to the Union Forces, however, at pyhric costs. Before Grant, few Union Generals read this, and withdrew to better ground to fight another day. Grant saw that he was in a better position against Lee after Lee took the ground than before he took the ground and continued the battle.
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I would say the worst pres. would be Herbert Hoover, for letting the US slip into the depression without doing anything about it. |
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I agree....I've researched them all, and Herbert Hoover has to be the worst. Before the end of his first year in office, the bottom fell out of the American economy, and President Hoover, the man at the top, was readily held responsible for the worst economic depression in American history. Failing to use his executive power to stem the tide of closing banks and failing businesses, Hoover's name was routinely linked to Depression-era hardships. Only toward the end of his term did he institute emergency programs for the failed economy.
I would say Jimmy Carter runs the closest second worst. |
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I vote for Clinton, though it will be years before we know the extent of the damage he did. He all but gave the keys to Los Alamos to China, and all those nuke designs, neutron bomb, etc.- that stuff will all get built someday.
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