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View Poll Results: Which of these do you consider to be the greatest?
British Empire 37 28.91%
French Colonial Empire 0 0%
Roman Empire 48 37.50%
Holy Roman Empire 2 1.56%
Macedonian Empire of Alexander the Great 7 5.47%
Mongol Empire 21 16.41%
Incan Empire 1 0.78%
Persian Empire 3 2.34%
Mughal Empire 5 3.91%
French Empire of Napoleon 4 3.13%
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Old 01-23-2007, 15:35 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Come off it, you're infamous here (or were) for being a narrow-minded jingoistic Rule Britannia total non-historian.

Which is exceedingly better than the historically ignorant ultra-nationalist turks that post on this forum....
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Old 01-23-2007, 18:15 PM   #182 (permalink)
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In conculsion Mughals were assimilated with Hindustan, they lived, ruled and died in Hindustan, which makes them Hindustanis than Persians. A second generation Indian, Pakistani or Iranian in America call themselves as American, not as Indian or Pakistani or Iranian.

Just coz they spoke Persian doesnt mean that they are Persians, heck all of us write and speak in English, does that make us Englishmen??
As an Iranian i agree with you on this. In fact if we make a comparision between the Mughol and Mongole rule, when can also see that the Mongole themselves were assimilate in the empire of their subjects from Kublai Khan to the Hologo Khan and the Golden Horde.
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Old 01-23-2007, 18:21 PM   #183 (permalink)
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The British Empire was the greatest empire ever. To this day it remains the largest empire that the world has ever known. Here is a list of the 50 largest empires ever -

that doest mean much ... sense everything is relative. The defacto British empire was the largest and the mightiest in its time.

For example, the Roman Empire might be dwarf by the empire of caliphs, but we shouldnt take the days of glory of caliphate as our reference point just because we like it so.

Every empire should be compare the relative situation during their time IMHO
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Old 01-23-2007, 22:22 PM   #184 (permalink)
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the Roman Empire might be dwarf by the empire of caliphs, but we shouldnt take the days of glory of caliphate as our reference point just because we like it so.
So we should make the Roman Empire larger than the British Empire just because we like it to be even though the British Empire is the largest ever?

You can't make the Roman Empire the greatest. The British Empire is the greatest until, in 500 or more years, someone surpasses.

It won't be America, it won't be Rome and it won't be Canada.

The British Empire is THE largest and THE greatest ever. Get the chip off your shoulder and stop denying it.

NO country nowadays, even the US, will surpass Britannia. No matter how cocky or arrogant you become. The greatest ever was the British Empire.

At its height the British Empire was almost 7 times bigger than the puny Roman Empire at ITS height and you want to use the Roman Empire as some sort of "reference point"?

The Roman Empire was tiny compared to Britannia.

Britain would have swallowed Rome and spat out the pips.

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Old 01-23-2007, 22:30 PM   #185 (permalink)
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Even without nuclear weapons, its conventional force projection is many times more effective.

Come off it, you're infamous here (or were) for being a narrow-minded jingoistic Rule Britannia total non-historian.
When the British Empire was at its height we didn't have nuclear weapons because they hadn't even been invented. In 100 years' time a superpower will have weapons that the US doesn't have now because in 2007 they haven't been invented.

Saying "The US has thousands of nuclear weapons whereas the British Empire didn't" isn't good enough because NOBODY had nuclear weapons in 1921 when the British Empire was at its height because they weren't invented. And the US now probably won't have weapons that a superpower in 100 years' time will have.

And I'm not being jingoistic by saying that the British Empire is the greatest ever. I'm stating a fact and I've even shown you the 50 biggest empires ever, the British Empire being hnumber one. What can I do? Lie and say it was only number 32 even though it was number 1?

The British Empire was number one. In 2007 it remains the largest empire the world has ever known. It's not my fault. That's just how it is. Unless I get in a time machine and make the Romans rule Australia (not discovered until 1788) and North America (not discovered until 1492)

World's largest empires

British Empire - 36.6 million kmē [1] (under King George V in 1921) (excludes Antarctic territorial claims)
Mongol Empire - 33.2 million kmē [1] (under Khublai Khan in 1279) (excludes Northern Siberia)
Russian Empire - 22.8 million kmē [2] (under Alexander III in 1895)
Spanish Empire - 19 million kmē [1] (under King Phillip II)
Arab Empire - 13.2 million kmē [1] (under the Umayyad Caliph Al-Walid I)
Qing Empire - 12 million kmē [3] (under Emperor Qianlong).
French Empire - 12 million kmē [1]
Portuguese Empire - 10.4 million kmē [1]
American Empire - 10 million kmē [4] (1898-1902 and 1906-1908)
Achaemenid Persian Empire - 7.5 million kmē [5] (under Darius the Great)
Japanese Empire - 7.4 million kmē [1] (during World War II)
Ming Empire - 6.5 million kmē [2]
Han Empire - 6 million kmē [2]
Ottoman Empire - 5.6 million kmē [1]
Roman Empire - 5.6 million kmē [1] (under Emperor Trajan)
Tang Empire - 5.4 million kmē [2] (under Emperor Gaozong of Tang [6])
Macedonian Empire - 5.4 million kmē [1] (under Alexander the Great)
Maurya Empire - 5 million kmē [2] (under Ashoka the Great)
Mexican Empire - 4.7 millon kmē [1]
Timurid Empire - 4.4 million kmē [2]
Mughal Empire - 4 million kmē [2]
Hunnic Empire - 4 million kmē [2] (under Attila the Hun)
Seljuq Empire - 3.9 million kmē [2]
Seleucid Empire - 3.9 million kmē [1]
Italian Empire - 3.8 million kmē (during World War II)
Dutch Empire - 3.7 million kmē [1]
Nazi German Empire - 3.6 million kmē [1] (during World War II)
Gupta Empire - 3.5 million kmē [2] (under Chandragupta II)
Sassanid Persian Empire - 3.5 million kmē [2] (under Khosrau I)
Ghaznavid Empire - 3.4 million kmē [2]
Delhi Sultanate - 3.2 million kmē [2]
Khazar Empire - 3 million kmē [2]
Median Empire - 2.8 million kmē [2]
Byzantine Empire - 2.7 million kmē [2]
Chola Empire - 2.5 million kmē [7] (under Rajendra Chola I)
Incan Empire - 2.0 million kmē
Majapahit Empire - 1.5 million kmē [8]
Neo-Assyrian Empire - 1.4 million kmē [2]
Aksumite Empire - 1.3 million kmē [2]
Srivijaya Empire - 1.2 million kmē [2]
Frankish Empire - 1.2 million kmē [2]
Harsha Empire - 1 million kmē [2] (under Harsha Vardhana)
Egyptian Empire - 1 million kmē [2]
Almoravid Empire - 1 million kmē [2]
Khmer Empire - 1 million kmē [2]
Akkadian Empire - 650,000 kmē [9]
Pala Empire - 600,000 kmē [10]
Nanda Empire - 600,000 kmē [10]
Neo-Babylonian Empire - 500,000 kmē [9]
Vijayanagara Empire - 360,000 kmē [11]rld's largest empires

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So we should make the Roman Empire larger than the British Empire just because we like it to be even though the British Empire is the largest ever?

You can't make the Roman Empire the greatest. The British Empire is the greatest until, in 500 or more years, someone surpasses.
I am not suggesting Roman Empire is the greatest then British. All i am saying without insulting the imperial dignity of Britannia is that all empires should be compared to their time and era. .. and we should not ask which empire was the mightiest of all.

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The British Empire is THE largest and THE greatest ever. Get the chip off your shoulder and stop denying it.

NO country nowadays, even the US, will surpass Britannia. No matter how cocky or arrogant you become. The greatest ever was the British Empire.
you are calling me arrogant and cocky ... ??

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At its height the British Empire was almost 7 times bigger than the puny Roman Empire at ITS height and you want to use the Roman Empire as some sort of "reference point"?
i didnt use Rome as referance point, i merely gave an example .... anyways ....
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