What battle do you want to see on film? - Page 6

Anon · 09-21-2006, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Wraith601

It's being released in 2007.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416449/

YES!!!

Trailer:
http://www.worstpreviews.com/trailer.php?id=453&item=0

Will You See This Movie?

330(Votes)

Yes, In the Theaters: 93%
I'll Wait for the DVD: 4%
Maybe on TV: 0%
I'm Not Sure: 2%
No, I Will Not: 1%

July 29, 2006 - Based on the epic graphic novel by Frank Miller, "300" is a ferocious retelling of the ancient Battle of Thermopylae in which King Leonidas (Gerard Butler) and 300 Spartans fought to the death against Xerxes and his massive Persian army. Facing insurmountable odds, their valor and sacrifice inspire all of Greece to unite against their Persian enemy, drawing a line in the sand for democracy. The film brings Miller's (Sin City) acclaimed graphic novel to life by combining live action with virtual backgrounds that capture his distinct vision of this ancient historic tale.

Official Website: http://300themovie.warnerbros.com

Rifleman · 09-21-2006, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by PubFather

Remember that roughly half of the "English" army was made up of lowland Scots. Lowlanders regarded the Highlanders as primitive barbarians. Lowlanders spoke "Scots" (a derivative of "English"), the Highlanders Gaelic. Lowlanders were largely Calvinist against the Catholic Highlanders.

I think it was around 1600 that your good King James I initiated a little social experiment with lowland Scots called the Ulster Plantation. A little over a hundred years later some of their decendents decided that they weren't Scottish enough to be Scottish, Irish enough to be Irish, or British enough to be British. They decided to become Americans.

When they hit the Atlantic coast they headed inland to the Appalachians, since most of the good lands along the Atlantic seaboard were already claimed. They became very good with a German invention called the jager and modified it into the American longrifle.

On October 8, 1780, they killed a highland regular named Patrick Ferguson, and much of the loyalist milita he commanded, at Kings Mountain. Many of Ferguson's loyalist militia were of highland descent as well.

A few months later, on January 17, 1781, some of the same frontier riflemen who had been at Kings Mountain formed part of Daniel Morgan's skirmishline at Cowpens. They fell back under fire, sharpshooting as they went, until the attacking troops of the 71st Regiment of Foot, AKA the 71st Highlanders, hit the Continental Line and were virtually annihilated.

Ain't it a shame that cousins can't get along.

Put Kings Mountain and Cowpens on film.

PubFather · 09-21-2006, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rifleman

I think it was around 1600 that your good King James I initated a little social experiment with lowland Scots called the Ulster Plantation. A little over a hundred years later some of their decendents decided that they weren't Scottish enough to be Scottish, Irish enough to be Irish, or British enough to be British. They decided to become Americans.

When they hit the Atlantic coast they headed inland to the Appalachians, since most of the good lands along the Atlantic seaboard were already claimed. They became very good with a German invention called the jager and modified it into the American longrifle.

On October 8, 1780, they killed a highland regular named Patrick Ferguson, and much of the loyalist milita he commanded, at Kings Mountain. Many of Ferguson's loyalist militia were of highland descent as well.

A few months later, on January 17, 1781, some of the same frontier riflemen who had been at Kings Mountain formed part of Daniel Morgan's skirmishline at Cowpens. They fell back under fire, sharpshooting as they went, until the attacking troops of the 71st Regiment of Foot, AKA the 71st Highlanders, hit the Continental Line and were virtually annihilated.

Ain't it a shame that cousins can't get along.

Put Kings Mountain and Cowpens on film.

Really interesting story - I knew of the Scots-Irish presbyterians but didnt know the details of those battles, and I like quote from Washington.

Funnily enough, I'm highland on my father's side, lowland on my mothers (as well as part English...) It's true that Scots have spent as much time killing each other as they have the English...

Quote:

Willie: "Brothers and sisters are natural born enemies! Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Welshmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damned Scots! They ruined Scotland..."
Skinner: "You Scots sure are a contentious people."
Willie: "You just made an enemy for life!"

PubFather · 09-21-2006, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leibstandarte10

Whoops, did I mispell it?

Yep - but only just...

Anon · 09-21-2006, 17:14 PM

WHOA!

Michael Mann is directing ANOTHER movie about the 300 Spartans(perhaps with George Clooney):

Go Tell The Spartans... Again
by Stax

June 13, 2002 - According to Variety, Hollywood has gone ape for the ancient Greeks. In addition to Universal's long-in-development epic Gates of Fire, which is based on Steven Pressfield's novel and has Michael Mann attached to direct, another project about the Battle of Thermoplyae is in the works. 20th Century Fox will remake its 1962 cult classic The 300 Spartans, which is "about the elite Greek warriors who held off a million Persian invaders in the Battle of Thermoplyae." Novelist/playwright Erik Jendresen (HBO's Band of Brothers) will script the remake, which the trade claims will be "more ambitious" than the 1962 film.

Fox honcho Jim Gianopulos told Variety that films "like Gladiator, Braveheart and the fantasy Lord of the Rings demonstrated the enormous appeal of strong characters fighting epic battles on grand scales, and this has all those elements. ... We've already done much preparation and planning to get under way next year and we're relying on Erik to give us the compelling characters to bring that period to life."

Jendresen is also at work on Crisis in the Hot Zone, the Fox-based ebola virus pic previously beat to the theaters by Outbreak; Explaining Hitler, co-written with Bruce McKenna for director Jim Sheridan; an adaptation of Sebastian Junger's book Fire; biopics of both Daniel Boone and Jacques Cousteau; and the stem cell research pic Immortals for director Ridley Scott.
http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/362/362137p1.html

Some more links:

http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808404115
http://www.historicalnovelsociety.or...pinterview.htm

According to the links 20th Century Fox has it's own Remake of the original in the works.

Anon · 09-22-2006, 11:43 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H9QQ-iBKtI

Utube trailer for "300" spartans(the previously linked trailer has been pulled)

leib10 · 09-22-2006, 15:57 PM

I'd like to see a movie about Manfred von Richthofen, Rickenbacker, Erich Hartmann, etc.

glyn · 09-22-2006, 17:31 PM

Computer graphics have improved by leaps and bounds and they continue to improve. It should ultimately be possible to make films so realistic that the viewer will be unable to tell that CGI was used. I saw a brief clip of a French made film set in the interwar period in which the Farman Goliath airliner was portrayed. I would have sworn that it was real, but it wasn't. Now all we need are historians to work with the graphics people and anything should be possible. Oh, I can dream.......

leib10 · 09-22-2006, 19:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leibstandarte10

I'd like to see a movie about Manfred von Richthofen, Rickenbacker, Erich Hartmann, etc.

I see a WWI flying film coming out, "Flyboys". I also see in the trailer that all German Fokker Dr. I's bearing the same paint scheme as Richthofen's.

While it was true that planes of Jasta 11's pilots were painted predominately red, the pilots added their own touch to it. For example, Lothar von Richthofen, Manfred's daredevil brother, had splashes of yellow (cavalry's traditional color) applied to his planes.

glyn · 09-23-2006, 05:04 AM

I'm sure that a case-hardened cynic like yourself would NOT expect truth or accuracy to emerge from a Hollywood dream factory.
However, to put the other side, I am reminded of the words used by the director in the film The Great Waldo Pepper, where after listening to comments made by the 'pilots' he observes " I give them truth. They demand accuracy!" Hmm. Interesting.

leib10 · 09-23-2006, 13:38 PM

It's not that I can't see Hollywood not making a taking a story and sticking to its truthfulness. Some stories are so remarkable that they don't even have to embellish the truth or downright make things up. Hartmann's story would be one of them.

glyn · 09-23-2006, 14:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leibstandarte10

It's not that I can't see Hollywood not making a taking a story and sticking to its truthfulness. Some stories are so remarkable that they don't even have to embellish the truth or downright make things up. Hartmann's story would be one of them.

No. They don't have to. But they do! And will continue to do so.
There are many cooks making the broth of a movie. Some executives will say there MUST be a love interest otherwise females (or 50% of the cinema attending population) will stay away in droves. Someone else (guaranteed to have a name like Elmo Q Dumbleberger) will want to see more artistic 'balance'. Perhaps we shall have to wait for a talented band of freelance self-financing CGI experts to create the definitive article. Even then, will their work be ignored by the cinema chain owners? No prizes for guessing.

dalem · 09-27-2006, 03:14 AM

A buddy of mine popped in a DVD of a movie I'd never even heard of this last weekend. "Kokoda" - a story of some Aussies enduring and fighting the Japanese over the Kokoda trail on New Guineau. Nicely done, I thought, good characters and some good Enfield and Bren action for us grogs. I recommend it.

-dale

aprilfleur · 09-28-2006, 21:15 PM

i would like to see in movie the battle between the ethnic groups in the Balkan region sometime early 1900s until Western Europe, UN, and US intervened to maintain the region's and Europe economic and political balance.

it would be a history of ethnic rifts and economic issues that i think Europe should always keep an eye on as it deals not only with Europe but most importantly with the ethnic groups in the area particularly the Muslim groups that would trace their roots to neighboring Middle East nations...and how this impacted on UN and US....and why...

Catalan · 09-28-2006, 21:18 PM

I'd like to see Hollywood exaggerate Kursk.

09-22-2006, 15:57 PM	#82 (permalink)
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09-21-2006, 17:14 PM	#80 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	WHOA! Michael Mann is directing ANOTHER movie about the 300 Spartans(perhaps with George Clooney): Go Tell The Spartans... Again by Stax June 13, 2002 - According to Variety, Hollywood has gone ape for the ancient Greeks. In addition to Universal's long-in-development epic Gates of Fire, which is based on Steven Pressfield's novel and has Michael Mann attached to direct, another project about the Battle of Thermoplyae is in the works. 20th Century Fox will remake its 1962 cult classic The 300 Spartans, which is "about the elite Greek warriors who held off a million Persian invaders in the Battle of Thermoplyae." Novelist/playwright Erik Jendresen (HBO's Band of Brothers) will script the remake, which the trade claims will be "more ambitious" than the 1962 film. Fox honcho Jim Gianopulos told Variety that films "like Gladiator, Braveheart and the fantasy Lord of the Rings demonstrated the enormous appeal of strong characters fighting epic battles on grand scales, and this has all those elements. ... We've already done much preparation and planning to get under way next year and we're relying on Erik to give us the compelling characters to bring that period to life." Jendresen is also at work on Crisis in the Hot Zone, the Fox-based ebola virus pic previously beat to the theaters by Outbreak; Explaining Hitler, co-written with Bruce McKenna for director Jim Sheridan; an adaptation of Sebastian Junger's book Fire; biopics of both Daniel Boone and Jacques Cousteau; and the stem cell research pic Immortals for director Ridley Scott. http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/362/362137p1.html Some more links: http://movies.yahoo.com/shop?d=hp&cf=prev&id=1808404115 http://www.historicalnovelsociety.or...pinterview.htm According to the links 20th Century Fox has it's own Remake of the original in the works.

09-22-2006, 11:43 AM	#81 (permalink)
Anon New Member Join Date: 08-03-03 Posts: 0	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3H9QQ-iBKtI Utube trailer for "300" spartans(the previously linked trailer has been pulled)

09-22-2006, 17:31 PM	#83 (permalink)
glyn *Military Professional* Join Date: 09-15-06 Location: Penzance, Cornwall UK Posts: 6,539	Computer graphics have improved by leaps and bounds and they continue to improve. It should ultimately be possible to make films so realistic that the viewer will be unable to tell that CGI was used. I saw a brief clip of a French made film set in the interwar period in which the Farman Goliath airliner was portrayed. I would have sworn that it was real, but it wasn't. Now all we need are historians to work with the graphics people and anything should be possible. Oh, I can dream.......

09-23-2006, 05:04 AM	#85 (permalink)
glyn *Military Professional* Join Date: 09-15-06 Location: Penzance, Cornwall UK Posts: 6,539	I'm sure that a case-hardened cynic like yourself would NOT expect truth or accuracy to emerge from a Hollywood dream factory. However, to put the other side, I am reminded of the words used by the director in the film The Great Waldo Pepper, where after listening to comments made by the 'pilots' he observes " I give them truth. They demand accuracy!" Hmm. Interesting.

09-23-2006, 13:38 PM	#86 (permalink)
leib10 HKHolic *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-17-05 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 3,240 Country:	It's not that I can't see Hollywood not making a taking a story and sticking to its truthfulness. Some stories are so remarkable that they don't even have to embellish the truth or downright make things up. Hartmann's story would be one of them.

09-27-2006, 03:14 AM	#88 (permalink)
dalem Lord High Hullabalooster *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-23-04 Location: Columbia Heights, MN Posts: 8,325 Country:	A buddy of mine popped in a DVD of a movie I'd never even heard of this last weekend. "Kokoda" - a story of some Aussies enduring and fighting the Japanese over the Kokoda trail on New Guineau. Nicely done, I thought, good characters and some good Enfield and Bren action for us grogs. I recommend it. -dale

09-28-2006, 21:15 PM	#89 (permalink)
aprilfleur New Member Join Date: 09-24-06 Posts: 23	i would like to see in movie the battle between the ethnic groups in the Balkan region sometime early 1900s until Western Europe, UN, and US intervened to maintain the region's and Europe economic and political balance. it would be a history of ethnic rifts and economic issues that i think Europe should always keep an eye on as it deals not only with Europe but most importantly with the ethnic groups in the area particularly the Muslim groups that would trace their roots to neighboring Middle East nations...and how this impacted on UN and US....and why...

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