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    Gurkha victory

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    UK court rules in favor of Gurkha veterans
    By RAPHAEL G. SATTER – 2 hours ago

    LONDON (AP) — A British court has struck down immigration restrictions placed on Gurkha veterans who served in the country's armed forces, ordering the government to draw up a new policy that takes their service into account, lawyers for the Gurkhas said Tuesday.

    The Nepalese soldiers, who have served with the British military since the early 19th century, are demanding the repeal of regulations that bar some of them from settling in Britain.

    "This court has struck that policy down as being completely unlawful, and has ordered the government to draw up a new policy as soon as possible that takes in account the long a distinguished service of these men," attorney David Enright said.

    Gurkha soldiers broke out into cheers after the judgment was announced, gathering outside the High Court to play bagpipes and wave green flags emblazoned with two crossed kukri — bent Nepalese knives that the Gurkhas have adopted as their standard.

    Mercenaries recruited from the Himalayan hills, the Gurkhas are a legacy of the British Empire. The fierce fighters served the United Kingdom starting in 1815, through the conflagrations of the 20th century and into the 21st, fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    Despite their service, the Nepalese warriors have struggled to secure equal treatment from British authorities.

    Gurkhas, for example, were not automatically allowed to settle in Britain until after 1997, when their base was moved from Hong Kong to southeast England.

    The government argued that some of those who retired before 1997 had only weak links to Britain and should have their cases reviewed individually. The Gurkhas sued, arguing that their service was what mattered — not where it took place.

    On Tuesday, High Court Justice Nicholas Blake supported their position, saying the restrictions were illegal and demanding that the government reformulate them.

    Blake said soldiers had a covenant with the nation they served: In exchange for their personal sacrifice they should always expect fair treatment.

    "Rewarding long and distinguished service by the grant of residence in the country for which the service was performed would, in my judgment, be a vindication and an enhancement of this covenant," Blake said.

    Britain's Home Office gave no indication of how it would review its restrictions or when the review would be published. But Enright said the judgment gave the government no choice but to remove obstacles to the Gurkha's entry.

    "It has to be hugely widened, and we would expect to see a dramatic lowering of the hurdle," Enright said.

    Gurkhas and their supporters said they felt vindicated.

    "It's hard to say you have no strong ties to Britain when you were part of the British Army," said 53-year-old Chandra Pakhrin, a veteran of the 10th Princess Mary's Own Gurkha Rifles. "We shouldn't have to go through this."

    Actress Joanna Lumley, whose father, Maj. James Lumley, fought alongside the Gurkhas in Burma — now known as Myanmar — in World War II, said she was "proud of British justice."

    The star of the cult television series "Absolutely Fabulous" told The Associated Press her father did not share much about his experiences in the war, "but he would talk about how staggeringly loyal the Gurkhas were."

    "He would be completely shattered if he knew how they were being treated," she said. "Today may be the beginning of a new story."


    The Associated Press: UK court rules in favor of Gurkha veterans

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    And not before time

    It is so refreshing that this injustice is finally in the process of being corrected.
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    They should have stormed Parliament shouting "Ayo Gurkh Ali" The next hurdle is parity on Pensions

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    Good to see the Gurkhas getting what is rightfully theirs, in a world where there are leaders who even call for the "rights of illegal immigrant workers" in the UK to be respected, it is downright unfair that the Gurkhas, who have sworn loyalty to the crown and spent their entire lives in service of the nation should be discriminated against. I couldn't agree more with this -

    "It's hard to say you have no strong ties to Britain when you were part of the British Army," said 53-year-old Chandra Pakhrin, a veteran of the 10th Princess Mary's Own Gurkha Rifles. "We shouldn't have to go through this."
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    Heh, the Bureaucracy is the same everywhere eh! Good to know the Gurkha's demands are being finally addressed.

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    Outstanding news. I was so pleased to hear this. I can't think of any group of people more deserving of British citizenship. Hell, if Britain didn't want them I'd be lobbying for Australia to take them on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfella View Post
    Outstanding news. I was so pleased to hear this. I can't think of any group of people more deserving of British citizenship. Hell, if Britain didn't want them I'd be lobbying for Australia to take them on.
    The only people who have blocked for many years, has been the British Government. The whole of the Country were up in Arms over this mess. I have signed petitions, which were given into No10 Downing St. to allow the Gurkha warriors into the Country for which the had fought, died, and given so much. This was not going to go away and I think People Power won the day.

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    Wonderful news!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dave lukins View Post
    They should have stormed Parliament shouting "Ayo Gurkh Ali" The next hurdle is parity on Pensions
    Mr Lukins,

    Do you think the Regiment will survive if the pensions are brought on par with the British soldiers'? The only things keeping the regiment alive are tradition and a slight cost-advantage. Clearly if the fates of even British regiments with equally long traditions is any indication, the former won't save the khukri from the axe. So it comes down to the cost-advantage... Between Maoists in Nepal and the exchequers' in London, it may well become a race to who will make it impossible to sustain a regiment (down from the 4?) first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cactus View Post
    Mr Lukins,

    Do you think the Regiment will survive if the pensions are brought on par with the British soldiers'? The only things keeping the regiment alive are tradition and a slight cost-advantage. Clearly if the fates of even British regiments with equally long traditions is any indication, the former won't save the khukri from the axe. So it comes down to the cost-advantage... Between Maoists in Nepal and the exchequers' in London, it may well become a race to who will make it impossible to sustain a regiment (down from the 4?) first.
    It's britain's loss if they axe the regiment..one of the finest fighting units ever.anywhere in any condition..i'm sure the gurkhas will have takers in so many other countries

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    Jhan Ramro!

    No chance of axing. But those Gorkhas who settle in the UK will be no patch on those from Nepal.

    They will get ''civilised''!

    The best soldiers are those who have seen deprivation and are not exposed to the modern stuff of civil liberties and human rights and race equality and all that.

    I am not being racist, it is the same as we face in India. The real remote chaps are the best soldiers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Jhan Ramro!

    No chance of axing. But those Gorkhas who settle in the UK will be no patch on those from Nepal.

    They will get ''civilised''!

    The best soldiers are those who have seen deprivation and are not exposed to the modern stuff of civil liberties and human rights and race equality and all that.

    I am not being racist, it is the same as we face in India. The real remote chaps are the best soldiers.
    Sir, isn't this about granting citizenship/residency to those who've already served with the army(retired gorkhas)?... The new recruits obviously won't be given residency etc without serving the queen for a few decades.. so i guess they'll still remain a ravenous uncivilized soldier-as good as any..

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    We do it.

    The Nepal Domicile are far better than Indian domicile!

    I had these blokes under my command as a Brigade Commander!


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