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Old 12-16-2006, 05:47 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I found that I got better with practice and especially with experience. Good thing too. My first attempts at a battle plan were shall we say "less than stellar".
This is where KISS really pays off.
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Old 12-17-2006, 14:48 PM   #32 (permalink)
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This is where KISS really pays off.
So true. The best plans ARE simple. Like OoE said I had to learn that a bad plan is still a bad plan no matter how many bells and whistles you add. That and figuring out that you can't do everything yourself. That's what your subordinate commanders are for...
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Old 12-18-2006, 23:47 PM   #33 (permalink)
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So I just learned today, that I am un-qaulified to join any combat-arms trades..

I passed my aptitude test, and passed my physical..its not that. Its that I have a speech inpedement, had it since I could speak...I blame it on my genes. My grandfather had a stutter also, but he was a tanker durin WW2, I told them that, but I guess that doesnt matter.

The reasoning, is that they fear my speech indpediment will get in the way of communication on the battle field and could result in the death of injury of me or others around me... That part made me feel really bad about myself

So now im at a loss as to what I should do. Ive been mulling around with weapons or vehicle tech.

I figure that once I get in, I can actually afford proper therapy, and maybe I can then see what happens.

Dont know why im telling you all this..but yeah
I can relate, with me it was color vision. I enlisted anyway, and eventually found my way into a pretty sweet deal. Remember, everything is waiverable.
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Old 12-19-2006, 09:14 AM   #34 (permalink)
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I can relate, with me it was color vision. I enlisted anyway, and eventually found my way into a pretty sweet deal. Remember, everything is waiverable.
A supervisor of mine used to have an expression: 'You can get a waiver for everything except the Constitution.'
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Old 02-27-2007, 11:19 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Keep trying

Keep it up

I was rejected twice over 2years for asmthmatic reasons but managed the 3rd time I was pretty devestated when i was rejected twice realy pissed off so i thought i keep going back till they get annoyed well to my luck they down graded my catagory from sever to minor , I passs the fitness test at a high level I had to run 1120 metres in 6.30mnts so i done it in 4.30mnts and completed 2500metres in 12.45 mnts
And i was told by the medical officer in charge i might not pass that side of the physical test
I can only say never give up
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Old 02-27-2007, 22:49 PM   #36 (permalink)
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OK, an update...finally

The military want me to get assessed by a Speech Therapist (my stutter isnt that bad, it was just that during the interview I was a little nervous, and nerves tends to make it flare up, which is understandable I think).

So I need to get a referal from my Doctor, then get myself onto a 3 month waiting list for a Speech Therapist, then get the assessment done and hand it over to the Military and then see whats what..

Anything good in life doesnt come easy, and what does come easy in life, isnt always good!
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Old 02-28-2007, 01:49 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Old 02-28-2007, 02:01 AM   #38 (permalink)
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You'll be serving your country, no matter in what billet you end up in. The experience might prove invaluable. When you're done with the army you can always work for some PMC doing the same thing for a bazillion dollars more.
Or an NGO even (pay range from nothing to a *mazillion) where you will be able to see the benefits that you provide.
Engineers are always in demand, especially with the construction skills you get from military training.

My friend went to see about joining the RAAF as a pilot. But he has some sort of eye problem that rules him out. The recuiter suggested to go and give laser surgery a go and when he came back just "don't mention it and the medical guys will probably over-look it."

*mazillion - less than a bazillion but still heaps.
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Old 03-01-2007, 07:01 AM   #39 (permalink)
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i served with a guy in angola who stammered so badly that he could,nt talk properly excellent soldier,our very first contact or firefight i can still remember this guy screaming and shouting just as loud as me,today i speak to him via e-mail and phone, he does,nt stammer he said since that fatefull day .If i can recall at his wedding he started to stutter again but that was the last time. do not give up as sappersgt said try again somewhere else who knows
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So I just learned today, that I am un-qaulified to join any combat-arms trades..

I passed my aptitude test, and passed my physical..its not that. Its that I have a speech inpedement, had it since I could speak...I blame it on my genes. My grandfather had a stutter also, but he was a tanker durin WW2, I told them that, but I guess that doesnt matter.

The reasoning, is that they fear my speech indpediment will get in the way of communication on the battle field and could result in the death of injury of me or others around me... That part made me feel really bad about myself

So now im at a loss as to what I should do. Ive been mulling around with weapons or vehicle tech.

I figure that once I get in, I can actually afford proper therapy, and maybe I can then see what happens.

Dont know why im telling you all this..but yeah
I used to stutter as a child. Learning to sing Indian classical music helped. ;-)
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Old 03-02-2007, 17:04 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I used to stutter as a child. Learning to sing Indian classical music helped. ;-)
Yes, a surprising amount of people stutter when they are young. It is quite common in children, however, the vast majority of those children do not actually stutter.
Basically, its like a newly born horse learning to walk for the first time, its awkward and doesnt always work. but eventually they will get the hang of it, and walk normally.

However, with a stutter, it is different. There are alot of misconceptions out there about a stutter. Some think that it is a pychological problem like nerves, or a traumatic event as a child.

Those are all false. Its still very much a mystery, however from what I have learned (alot) about it. Is that, it is a whole bunch of things that come together to create the stutter.

Firstly, the way I talk is completely different, I just done mean sound wise. But the physical manner in the way my lips, jaws, toungue, vocal cords and all the muscles in my throat all move and react differently while talking than someone else does. Scientists still do not understand why, but one of the most effective ways to treat a stutter. Is to basically break the speach down into segments, and re-contruct your speech pattern into a normal patter. this is incredibly difficult, because essentially you are trying to make your unconcious brain act differently.

Its like trying to breath differently, sure its easy when you think about it. However, like speech, when you breath 90% of it is done unconciously. You are not physically trying to manipulate how you breath, you just do it! Unless you are trying to emphazise something, or purposly talk differently.

Secondly, My cognative brain overloads the speech part of my brain with thoughts, ideas, and what have you. Think of it as an 8 lane highway all of a suddenly, condensing into a 2 lane highway... thats basically what happens when I speak.
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