Blademaster

Well to be fair, she wasn't a soldier but a clerk or a mechanic. Every modern army needs clerks and mechanics even those who can't fight. The key thing is that frontline soldiers and the ones that will face most of the combat do not wash out. Jessica lynch was just one of the unfortunate ones who got caught in battle where she wasn't meant to be.

Anon

Clerks and mechanics ARE soldiers, and they HAVE to fight when needed.

They did at the Battle of the Bulge, they did countless times during Korea and Vietnam, and they did in An Nassiriyah.

When they enemy breaks through and is trying to kill you they dont give one rats ass you're 'just a mechanic'.

They want to kill you just the same. It is therefore the instructors job to make sure that the mechanics and cooks can fight too.

The PC JACKASSES that seemingly run the army should STFU and let the training cadre do their jobs.

lemontree

ROTFLMAO...

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-{SpoonmaN}-

Hey go easy she didn't screw up, she just didn't do much good either cause a truck fell onto her. Now her friends whose names escape me, they did good, and they deserved the recognition for dying in the process.

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I'm not arguing I dont have an issue with women being in any kind of service, but if they are then they must be held to the same standard as the men in their position, and if that means none can manage to meet those standards, then so be it (remember, this is the only way to be truly 'fair' anyway).

-{SpoonmaN}-

And I have to agree with M21, everyone in uniform, and that means abosutely everyone, no matter what your supposed position is, or your age or gender, must be prepared to be sent into dismounted ground combat if need be, and thus they should be trained accordingly. If you have any illusions that this shouldn't be the case, then you don't have to put the uniform on.

Anon

She didn't do anything...good or bad.

Nothing. Nada. Zip.

astralis

that whole jessica lynch thing was something of a fiasco. she got a bronze star...even though she herself admitted that her weapon jammed on the very first round.

Anon

She never even fired her weapon.

She was rendered unconscious when her vehicle crashed, and 'slept' through the whole firefight. She deserves that Bronze Star about as much as you deserve one.

PFC Rodriguez was really the only US troop that effectively fought back at all.

Canmoore

Well i got my call today to set the dates for my physical and aptitude tests along with my interview, which is next wednesday. So in the future ill let you all know what its like in the Canadian reg force.

My buddy who is infantry, has already done all of his training, he tells me that Basic is a joke compared to SQ at CFB Meaford. He tells me of this one story of how this one guy went completely loco, he was trying to lace up his boots when he just went nuts, he started freakin out and screaming running about like a lunatic. Needless to say he was taken away and never seen again lol. Im going armoured so ill be spared Meaford, ill be going to Gagetown for my SQ..so far i hear its not a bad place....so far lol

leib10

It's probably because a lot of people don't want to join because of the "horror" stories they've heard about what DI's do to recruits at boot camp. So in that respect it will boost recruitment and graduation rates. However, will it make better soldiers?

Probably not. As somebody said, whoever flunks out of boot camp obviously isn't worth a **** at the front, so it helps to separate the wheat from the chaff, so to speak.

However, I've known some guys who respected their DI's less because of the incessant shouting in-your-face mentality that the DI's had. They interpreted that behavior as stupidity, although they still obeyed orders, mostly out of fear. Those who were calmer, yet just as firm when it came to discipline, won more respect than the shouters, especially among the recruits who were more intelligent. Recruits under them performed their duties because they admired the man giving orders and in a sense of duty, rather than fear.


That's just what I've heard from some guys who have been in and out.

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Expat Canuck

Yes, I think that is what I said, if I have to do x number of pushups so does anyone else who wants to join. If you can do it and can take getting yelled at your all good in my books. Like I said that tatoo'd lady that took me to the strip club could have beaten the crap out of me.

Expat Canuck

We had a native training platoon and I remember one jumped the fence and split in the middle of the night. He had a cool name like silver feather or something. Oh it was Running Bear!!! I remember now, that was funny. I have no clue why he did that as if he had said 'fukk you I quit' he'd have been better off.