Thread: IISS : Georgia shouldn't join NATO

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

At last time I checked Georgia did not have a contractual agreement with the Soviets such as above the US and Cuba.

Actually, Georgia is still a member of the CIS. The CIS charter has a section dealing with the prevention of conflicts and resolution of disputes :

Section IV. PREVENTION OF CONFLICTS AND RESOLUTION OF DISPUTES

Article 16

Member states shall undertake all possible measures for the prevention of conflicts, first and foremost on an international and inter-confessional basis, which may give rise to the violation of human rights.

They shall render to each other, on the basis of mutual consent, assistance in the regulation of such conflicts, including under the framework of international organizations.

Article 17

Member states of the Commonwealth will refrain from actions capable of causing damages to other member states and lead to the aggravation of possible disputes.

Member states will rigorously and in the spirit of cooperation make efforts towards the fair peaceful resolution of their disputes by way of negotiations or reach agreement on an appropriate alternative procedure for the resolving the dispute.

If the member states do not resolve a dispute using the means indicated in part two of this article, they may transfer it to the Council of Heads of States.

Article 18

The Council of Heads of States shall have the authority at any stage of a dispute, the continuation of which could threaten the maintenance of peace or security in the Commonwealth, to recommend an appropriate procedure of methods for its resolution to the parties.

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The Russians (since the Soviets are long gone now ) argue that Georgia actually broke all of the above articles.

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

A very valid point. How do you suppose the US keeps Guantanimo?

Cuba @ Dpt of State :

The United States and Cuba concluded a Treaty of Relations in 1934 which, among other things, continued the 1903 agreements that leased the Guantanamo Bay naval base to the United States.

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

Actually, Georgia is still a member of the CIS. The CIS charter has a section dealing with the prevention of conflicts and resolution of disputes :



The Russians (since the Soviets are long gone now ) argue that Georgia actually broke all of the above articles.

And I wonder if we look closely enough who else is to blame for it. It takes two to tango.

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

And I wonder if we look closely enough who else is to blame for it.

The neocon administration who failed to dissuade Saakashvili's adventurism.

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

The neocon administration who failed to dissuade Saakashvili's adventurism.

Sorry dont buy it there were still others and yes the Russians included. All are too blame not just few who you tend to dislike.

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

All are too blame not just few who you tend to dislike.

I don't like losers...

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

I don't like losers...

Hmm, interesting. I wonder who you might vote for.

Originally Posted by Dreadnought

Hmm, interesting. I wonder who you might vote for.

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

I honestly have to say Shipwreck I did not think you would have been a McCain fan. Good for you.