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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Capstar View Post
    I thought you said earlier that the victims of 9/11 didn't deserve it but the US as a whole did, now it seems that you are saying that the adults deserved it because 'they were responsible'. And the attack on the US was deserved, (and ok), because there were almost exclusively 'responsible' adults killed. While Russia didn't deserve Beslan because they were children involved, neither country deserved any terror attacks, just because they were adults killed doesn't mean that it was any better. (Around ten times as many people died in 9/11 as in the Beslan school siege)

    Changing your tune a bit
    Shiny, Any citizen of the Russian Federation that tells you Russia collapsed during the Cold War because it did not seek the help of Germany in 1941 (post#73) either A) was in diapers during the cold war and is definately confused from BS or B) Dont know **** about his own country nor the years of 1941-late 1945. Either way he's about pathetic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    Shiny, Any citizen of the Russian Federation that tells you Russia collapsed during the Cold War because it did not seek the help of Germany in 1941 (post#73) either A) was in diapers during the cold war and is definately confused from BS or B) Dont know **** about his own country nor the years of 1941-late 1945. Either way he's about pathetic.
    I have to whole heartedly agree
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    Quote Originally Posted by snapper View Post
    If Ukraine did for some reason split up; Crimea to Russia etc... it is not impossible that Lviv would not wish to re-join Poland... Would Russia reject this?
    As for me I would be happy to see this city getting back to Poland.
    Or any other country...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geralt View Post
    that your current aggressive policy is making anti-Russian even countries, parties and people who wouldn't ever be your enemies if not for this! Russian aggression towards Georgia gave you so many enemies that you only started to realize this fact
    Oh, no!!!!! Impossible!!!

    Who are these countries, parties and people???
    Tell us, please.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFirst View Post
    As for me I would be happy to see this city getting back to Poland.
    Or any other country...
    I'm just curious Mr.First,why would you like to see Lviv go back to Poland(or any other country)?Terrible crime,bad economy,politics,bad sausages????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spork55 View Post
    Господин Иванов, please don't misunderstand me. There's a talk of Russia getting back to her "imperialist" roots. I just don't see it, that's my whole bloody point
    I stand corrected then.

    Now, I do believe that there always will be shouting matches between paranoid patriots on every side. I'd rather not be part of that one
    I saw post of 'paranoid patriots' here so many times, that it wasn't really difficult to misunderstand you, your post sounded quite serious

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFirst View Post
    As for me I would be happy to see this city getting back to Poland.
    Or any other country...
    As for me - after Russia gets South-Eastern ukraine back, who would care who gets the rest?

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    Snapper to be quiet honest Lviv would never vote to join anyone other than the part they are leading. During the "orange revolution" when it was uncertain which party is going to win the western side was going to succeed ergo Lviv/Ivano-Frankivsk etc they were going to form a diff nation.... Once the situation changed the other side wanted to leave... (you could search for it for declarations of Lviv governor etc)

    They are basically the most nationalistic part of Ukraine by far.
    Originally from Sochi, Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spork55 View Post
    Sir,

    I've spent a good chunk of my life behind the curtain and my father spent a couple years in the lubyanka jail (vs. "prison"). My grandfather was wounded twice, last time in Königsberg campaign in WW2 and my great-grandfather ended up dying in Ottoman camp in Baghdad in WW1,

    Nonetheless, I always found it remarkable how people in satellite countries (with exception of Cuba and North Korea perhaps) have always enjoyed a higher standard of living then the most poor schmucks outside (or even "in" really) of Moscow/Leningrad on the average. I'm sure you are well aware that consumer goods were always on the backburner in favor of heavy industry etc. in order to sustain the military complex.

    Russians are proud and strong, there is hardly a more resilient tribe or people more accustomed to hardships of warfare. This is probably not something one wants to test
    to quote a relative of mine - I never figured out what Sov.Union wanted more : to raise itīs standard of living to the level of surrounding countries or to bring them down to Sov.Unions level
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    Shiny, Any citizen of the Russian Federation that tells you Russia collapsed during the Cold War because it did not seek the help of Germany in 1941 (post#73) either A) was in diapers during the cold war and is definately confused from BS or B) Dont know **** about his own country nor the years of 1941-late 1945. Either way he's about pathetic.
    Any citizen of whatever country that keeps trying to press on the same sentence after he was DIRECTLY and CLEARLY told it was a HUMOR as he was stupid enough to misunderstand it either A) waits to receive his lobotomy next week or B) is just plain idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    Any citizen of whatever country that keeps trying to press on the same sentence after he was DIRECTLY and CLEARLY told it was a HUMOR as he was stupid enough to misunderstand it either A) waits to receive his lobotomy next week or B) is just plain idiot.
    Any idiot that doesn't realize what he has NOT posted and then makes reference to said post spells out exactly where he comes from.

    Yeah I find great humor in your posts regarding 911. **** you, Your a piece of trash and IMO it would be doubtfull posting things regarding 911 that you will live to see 100 posts on this forum.

    Idiotville, Population YOU! Now go play kiddie, out in traffic preferably on an 8 lane high speed line.

    Needless to say no big loss here.
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    You need medical help.

    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    Another internet tough guy being hurt deep into his heart?
    Cold war & Germany, try to insert the phrase back into its context and see the damn HUMOR if you know that word of course.

    As for your bad-word-yells, ten rubles are 100% sure you have no relatives died in 9/11, so I'll just ignore your ignorant and arrogant blabbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    You need medical help.
    Hmm been here for a long time...never heard that one before and still here.
    Like I stated before I doubt you will make 100 posts and then another idiot to the shitpile like many of those before you. Enjoy the trip.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    You need medical help.
    If you actually said some of the things you have been saying to an American's face, or to most most British, you would need medical help (Not a threat of course, I only give facts)

    As it is I think you may need to see a psychiatrist
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    Woland Sir: You correctly assert that the US supported the Afghans against the Russians, surely then they would regard the US as friends? No Sir - you fail to account for the rise of anti-Western Talibunnies and Al Quaidas, or do you hold that it was all about a few bases In Saudi Arabia to stop further Iraqi agression?

    The west supported Afghan 'liberation' and supported Kuwait and Saudi Arabia against Saddam. Why did the US deserve 9/11?

    All 'mature' US citizens deserved this? Come, come - perhaps I should go murdering innocent Russians for their past occupation of Poland... You must differentiate innocents from combatants, otherwise you end in global terrorism.

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