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    Quote Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers View Post
    But you have running water, electricity, internet, TV, and a proud and strong people.
    Sir,

    I've spent a good chunk of my life behind the curtain and my father spent a couple years in the lubyanka jail (vs. "prison"). My grandfather was wounded twice, last time in Königsberg campaign in WW2 and my great-grandfather ended up dying in Ottoman camp in Baghdad in WW1,

    Nonetheless, I always found it remarkable how people in satellite countries (with exception of Cuba and North Korea perhaps) have always enjoyed a higher standard of living then the most poor schmucks outside (or even "in" really) of Moscow/Leningrad on the average. I'm sure you are well aware that consumer goods were always on the backburner in favor of heavy industry etc. in order to sustain the military complex.

    Russians are proud and strong, there is hardly a more resilient tribe or people more accustomed to hardships of warfare. This is probably not something one wants to test

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    Geralt,

    You are lucky that there is centralised democracy Putin like, if you wish.

    Surely you would not like to have the catastrophe that has hit the US.

    US will survive. But would you?


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    If Ukraine did for some reason split up; Crimea to Russia etc... it is not impossible that Lviv would not wish to re-join Poland... Would Russia reject this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    Hehe. India survived on British assistance. USSR failed to survive cause they didn't accept German assistance in 1941

    Yes Geralt we deserved the stock exchange fall - but the same way you deserved your 9/11 then. And deserve even more, cause that event failed to change you to any good.

    And please, flex your brain a bit and learn political geography at last - there is no country named "USSR", there is no Russian Empire, and the word "Soviet" is useless cause there are no Soviets.
    What?

    Russia did not survive the Cold War due to defense spending and political misgivings at home. It had ABSOLUTELY ZERO to do with Germany.
    Where the hell do people learn trash like this?

    "but the same way you deserved your 9/11 then. And deserve even more, cause that event failed to change you to any good."

    Go **** yourself you ****ing idiot. For one learn history before you attempt to tell us people that lived the Cold War the reasons why Russia didnt survive and broke apart.

    And for two **** you concerning 911. You just better hope that never happens in your own home you ****ing pathetic creature!
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    Another internet tough guy being hurt deep into his heart?
    Cold war & Germany, try to insert the phrase back into its context and see the damn HUMOR if you know that word of course.

    As for your bad-word-yells, ten rubles are 100% sure you have no relatives died in 9/11, so I'll just ignore your ignorant and arrogant blabbing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    Another internet tough guy being hurt deep into his heart?
    Cold war & Germany, try to insert the phrase back into its context and see the damn HUMOR if you know that word of course.

    As for your bad-word-yells, ten rubles are 100% sure you have no relatives died in 9/11, so I'll just ignore your ignorant and arrogant blabbing.
    and i bet 100 rupees none of your relatives perished in the moscow theatre siege or at beslan from what you have just said to dreadnought i take it you celebrate those events. it is russians like you who give your nation a bad name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    Another internet tough guy being hurt deep into his heart?
    Cold war & Germany, try to insert the phrase back into its context and see the damn HUMOR if you know that word of course.

    As for your bad-word-yells, ten rubles are 100% sure you have no relatives died in 9/11, so I'll just ignore your ignorant and arrogant blabbing.
    Your nothing more then an uneducated ASSCLOWN! Go play kiddie.

    Russia didnt survive because of Germany in 1941. Your pathetically uneducated and definately out of touch with reality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadnought View Post
    Your nothing more then an uneducated ASSCLOWN! Go play kiddie.

    Russia didnt survive because of Germany in 1941. Your pathetically uneducated and definately out of touch with reality.
    Where in the hell do they come from?
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    Bengalraider - I don't celebrate those events - I said America as a whole (not the actual victims) deserved them and I'll repeat it again and again - cause Bin Laden is a creation of America just like our Ibn Al-Khattab was.
    Nationalistic end of your post, I ignore it as well, sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    Bengalraider - I don't celebrate those events - I said America as a whole (not the actual victims) deserved them and I'll repeat it again and again - cause Bin Laden is a creation of America just like our Ibn Al-Khattab was.
    Nationalistic end of your post, I ignore it as well, sorry.
    America may or may not have given birth to it's own nemesis by supporting the mujaheddin in the cold war, that is not the point here the point is you are toeing the line of AQ & OBL by saying ANY American irrespective of whether he was sitting in a McDonald in los angeles chewing hamburgers or serving in Iraq deserved that attack, not only Americans that attack shocked and horrified millions around the world. i would like you to back down from that line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    Bengalraider - I don't celebrate those events - I said America as a whole (not the actual victims) deserved them and I'll repeat it again and again - cause Bin Laden is a creation of America just like our Ibn Al-Khattab was.
    Nationalistic end of your post, I ignore it as well, sorry.
    And I shall say again that no nation deserves an atrocity like 9/11, or for something like the Beslan school siege. If the US deserved 9/11 did Russia deserve Beslan?
    Oh and in reference to an earlier post of yours, even if someone did not lose relatives in 9/11, it can still have an effect on them, ever heard of collective loss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bengalraider View Post
    America may or may not have given birth to it's own nemesis by supporting the mujaheddin in the cold war, that is not the point here the point is you are toeing the line of AQ & OBL by saying ANY American irrespective of whether he was sitting in a McDonald in los angeles chewing hamburgers or serving in Iraq deserved that attack, not only Americans that attack shocked and horrified millions around the world. before a mod gets to you i would like you to back down from that line.
    Well, not ANY American maybe - I think any except the children. They have a democracy they say - that means, the mature ones are responsible for their government's actions including the support of the mujaheddin that striked back in the end.

    If a mod gets to me - well I deserve it then, but surely I won't back down from that line just cause you/mod doesn't like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiny Capstar View Post
    And I shall say again that no nation deserves an atrocity like 9/11, or for something like the Beslan school siege. If the US deserved 9/11 did Russia deserve Beslan?
    Oh and in reference to an earlier post of yours, even if someone did not lose relatives in 9/11, it can still have an effect on them, ever heard of collective loss?
    Children shouldn't be responsible - matures should. And a simple fact - for Beslan, Russians usually blame Russian government cause it was unable to protect the children. But Americans blame Saddam, Kim, Osama, Fidel, whoever except themselves, and other Western countries seem to support this atrocity. Collective loss of collective earning of American oil companies and their European friends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    Children shouldn't be responsible - matures should. And a simple fact - for Beslan, Russians usually blame Russian government cause it was unable to protect the children. But Americans blame Saddam, Kim, Osama, Fidel, whoever except themselves, and other Western countries seem to support this atrocity. Collective loss of collective earning of American oil companies and their European friends?
    So, ok we'll play this blame game then.

    So who was to blame for Chernobyle? Must have been the Russian people who were poisoned over decades correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Woland View Post
    Children shouldn't be responsible - matures should.
    I thought you said earlier that the victims of 9/11 didn't deserve it but the US as a whole did, now it seems that you are saying that the adults deserved it because 'they were responsible'. And the attack on the US was deserved, (and ok), because there were almost exclusively 'responsible' adults killed. While Russia didn't deserve Beslan because they were children involved, neither country deserved any terror attacks, just because they were adults killed doesn't mean that it was any better. (Around ten times as many people died in 9/11 as in the Beslan school siege)

    Changing your tune a bit
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