Nope, Australian born and bred of Greek Cypriot background. Im looking at the situation completelly objectivelly, i dont see good guys or bad guys. Due to your situation you do see good guy and bad guys in this and that is your weakness.Originally Posted by Geralt
And there goes any shred of real research you could do.
I suspected that you were tossing BS around a lot but since Russian history is not my fortay, I let others to give me the evidence.
This, however, requires no evidence since we have posted ample documents and links that the US has NEVER supported the Taliban.
Added to your ill advised temper, this forum could do without you.
Chimo
I have my own opinion, that can be different from government position, since I'm not a spokesman for them. And I don't think government is eager to redraw current borders, as long as there's no absolute necessity to do that."We see proper Russian borders in different places, that is the problem. Current borders of RF aren't justified neither ethnically, nor historically."
Isn't that somewhat irredentist after seventeen years. I can't recall this as an enduring element of Russian foreign policy since 1991. Have I been incorrect?
Alex, does the Russian government wish to redraw it's borders now?
Dream on.
I think it's normal. Every country prefers pro- and neutral neighbours.
"I have my own opinion...And I don't think government is eager to redraw current borders, as long as there's no absolute necessity to do that."
Pardon my confusion. I wasn't sure that you were writing only for yourself when you stated-
"We see proper Russian borders in different places...,"
and if others see differently...?
Does "redrawing" require the input of others or is this something the Russian gov't would feel adequate to resolve from within, i.e. unilaterally? Does the Georgian intervention constitute "absolute necessity"?
Thanks.
"This aggression will not stand, man!"
Jeff Lebowski
To a certain degree yes. Last time Georgia did this what happened after was a lot of instability for Russia. The Chechens trained in the conflict because the confederation of mountain people declared war on Georgia and lots of people poured in from different regions. All the displaced people from the Georgian push wound up in Russia increasing instability in an already unstable place.Does "redrawing" require the input of others or is this something the Russian gov't would feel adequate to resolve from within, i.e. unilaterally? Does the Georgian intervention constitute "absolute necessity"?
Confederation of Mountain Peoples of the Caucasus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
If Yushenko institutes marshal law and dissolves the parliament with military intervention it might become necessary. (This is extremely unlikely. Imagine the nationalists pushing afterwards to place some sort of 2nd tier citizenship on the people in south-east and other ideas.)
Originally from Sochi, Russia.
Spork: How about Russias recent threat to target Poland with nuclear missiles? Is that not a threat and an attempt at blackmail?
"We" was just about Geralt and meMaybe it was just my poor English that caused confusion. Was it correct to say "you and I" instead?
Last edited by Alex_Ivanov; 25 Sep 08, at 22:17.
Snapper, it is a heavy-handed tactic but I don't think it's blackmail exactly (certainly not energy blackmail).
If Russia decides to re-target some nukes onto the Polish missile site (not entire Poland mind you) tomorrow it won't put Poland into a dramatic bind.
It takes away from the security of this particular site but having the missile site also provides Poland with security against rouge states. Also, its important to remember that re-targeting Russian missiles is a matter of minutes.
If I could just add my 2 cents here...Spork: How about Russias recent threat to target Poland with nuclear missiles? Is that not a threat and an attempt at blackmail?
Is not the very fact that NATO is placing strategically weapons in situation where it could remove a large Russian nuclear deterance a good enough reason for a Russian response?
To take a large step back, can anyone tell me which was the first European nation to make the initial request for a US missile defense system to be stationed in Europe, or was it a US initiative? I believe an answer to this question would really help in answering who is more likely to be perceived as the real aggressor. (Yes, I know this system is "suppose" to be targeted at Rogue missiles).
To be factually honest, Russia has nothing tangible to fear from the Polish base. It's more or less a good old diplomatic hogwash
A senior member of U.S. senate Foreign Relations Committee described the process of getting the system into place in Czech/Poland as "bribery". I personally don't think folks in Poland have much to fear from Tehran supreme council.
But it sure does send a strong message to Iran from the US.
Than again, things can and do change - http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26319411.htm
"Missile defense backers now citing Russia threat"
Missile defense backers now citing Russia threat - USATODAY.com
LOL, I found it partly funny that the congress said they never authorized funds for the actual systems to be based there.
"As Russian ballistic missiles rain down on Georgia, we should honor our commitment to allies in Poland and the Czech Republic," Republican Rep. Mark Kirk of Illinois said in a statement last week.
Kirk is seeking to boost funding for the plans to deploy 10 interceptors in Poland and a radar station in the Czech Republic. His amendment to an appropriations bill would restore funds cut from the Bush administration's request.Congressional Democrats have sought to block funding for the construction of a base until Poland and the Czech Republic have given final approval — their parliaments have not yet weighed in. In a separate bill nearing completion, they have restricted construction money until the new interceptors have been tested.
Democrats will not bend on the testing issue, said Rep. Ellen Tauscher, D-Calif., one of the authors of the restrictions.
"Congress believes that this system is untested and fails to defend against current and emerging threats"
Last edited by cyppok; 27 Sep 08, at 06:28.
Originally from Sochi, Russia.
I really do not understand the reasons that make you talking in such self-confident and frivolous manner. You should be much more modest. Seems, you suppose yourself as an extremely smart person?..
As for Belarus it will recognize the independence of S.Ossetia and Abkhazia in two or three weeks and then your words lose a sense.
You say China doesn't support us? But maybe China supports Georgia?....... Don't answer, this is senseless also.
You should work harder and then you will reach the level you want.and Estonia was on level of Finland
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