Thread: In current Russia-Georgia conflict, who is right?

Georgia is our new gate for trading between east-west.Thanks to USA for these opportinity.Usa and EU will take benefits from caucasian oil-gas reserves.I understand that why russia worries when they invaded georgia.

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

What are you trying to suggest here ?

Perhaps the pot calling the kettle black? Perhaps sour grapes based upon his interview?

Originally Posted by Taurkon

Dreadnought, you are arguing from one perspective, yet this situation looks vastly different if you look at it from the other side. It could be argued that the Russians had caught wind of a planned attack on Tskhinvali months before it occured, and not knowing the timing, moved forces within strike distance "in case". Further more, manned and unmanned flights over Georgia easily can be explained by Russia as "Monitoring" the situation. This is something the US has been accused doing a number of times in the past.

There are no "Facts are Facts" at this time, other than Georgia attacked and unarmed civilian township and Russia attacked (not invaded as you indicated) Georgia proper, while putting a stop to Georgian attacks on Tskhinvali.

What I believe to be a true statement though, is that NO western country would have behaved as Georgia did based on what some folks indentify as Russian provocation. Georgia was completely out of line, and to argue that their actions were justified is nonsense.

*If Russia wanted to monitor the situation she does have about 4 military birds in orbit that could have easily "monitiored the situation" instead they chose a much more aggressive stance by flyovers. Pretty much propting Georgia to defend her own air space after Russian warplanes shoot down a UAV over their own airspace.

26 May 2008 – UN Observer Mission in Georgia (UNOMIG) confirms Georgian UAV shot down by Russian jet in Abkhazia on 20 April

*Keep in mind this is April.

Unarmed civilian township? If memory serves an "exchange" involves more then one side.

14-15 June 2008 – Reports of an ‘intensive’ exchange of fire outskirts of Tskhinvali between Georgian and South Ossetian troops.

29-30 July 2008 – South Ossetia accuses Georgia of shelling villages outside of Tskhinvali. Georgia asserts that South Ossetians directed fire towards its monitoring group.

What I believe to be a true statement though, is that NO western country would have behaved as Georgia did based on what some folks indentify as Russian provocation. Georgia was completely out of line, and to argue that their actions were justified is nonsense.

Well if thats what you believe the by all means believe.

This is a classic case of finding policies to suit one'saggressions.

I couldnt agree more.

Originally Posted by Shipwreck

If Georgia was soooo innocent, why did Saakashvili LIE in a recent interview to SPIEGEL ?



Mmmmmmmmmhhhhhhhhh................

And the Russian Defense Ministry, From your same article?

In the Red Star account, Captain Denis Sidristy, the commander of a company of the 135th Motorized Infantry Regiment, describes how he and his unit were already in the Roki Tunnel, on their way to Tskhinvali, in the night preceding Aug. 8. Did Moscow's invasion begin earlier than the Russians have admitted, after all?

No kidding?

Last week, Moscow investigators also conceded, for the first time, that the number of civilian casualties of the Georgian assault on Tskhinvali was not 2,000, as Russian officials have repeatedly claimed, but 134.

Must have failed math in high school huh? Glad they dont do my taxes

When asked about the account in the Red Star, a spokesman for the Russian Defense Ministry told SPIEGEL that it was the result of a technical error. Moreover, the spokesman said, the official in question had been wounded and therefore "could no longer remember the situation clearly."

Must have been amnesia huh?

Last Friday Captain Sidristy, since decorated with the Russian defense ministry's order of bravery, was given a second opportunity to describe his version of the events to the Red Star. His unit, he said in his revised version, had advanced on Tskhinvali somewhat later than he had told the paper the first time.

You dont say?

As it appears, it is still difficult to separate truth and lies about the brief war in the Caucasus.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/...8273-2,00.html