Thread: Russian Arms Exports to Greece, Cyprus and Turkey

Originally Posted by Vord

Not going to happen. Not in your lifetime and not in your children's lifetimes. When you deny your minorities their basic civil rights, when you escalate things and commit outright attrocities, when you dare ethnically cleanse Turks on an island right off the coast of Turkey, you are bound to suffer severe consequences for generations! What would you expect the Turks to do? Sit back and watch their brothers and sisters get slaughtered?

Vord I have a few comments:
• The EU has high expectations when it comes to human rights, as you know Cyprus is part of the EU.
• Greeks in Cyprus are just as much a majority In Cyprus, just as much as Turks are in Turkey. Please keep that in mind.
• You say “commit outright atrocities”, please read the portion of the WIKI article below, and the ones I already posted. And please start backing up such strong accusatory statements with facts and links. When you read the article below you will find that both parties committed wrongs, like many other countries have experienced after gaining their Independence.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cypriot...munal_violence

“First signs of intercommunal conflict
The first signs of intercommunal conflict on the island appeared when the British conscripted Turkish Cypriots into the police force that patrolled Cyprus. Arif Hasan Tahsin a Turkish Cypriot that joined the Colonial police, a member of TMT and eventually rose as the number two in hierarchy of the Turkish Cypriots in his book[6] notes: "It is a fact that the Turks fought against Greek Cypriots not just because they wanted Enosis". EOKA would target colonial authorities including police men. Both British and Turkish police men would die in exchange of fire. The eventual death of Turkish Cypriot policemen were met with anti-Greek riots by the Turkish community while the British authorities would remained passive. Greek stores and neighborhoods would be burned and Greek civilians would be injured or killed. Such events created chaos and brought the communities apart both in Cyprus and in Turkey.[7]
On the 22nd of October 1957 Sir Hugh Mackintosh Foot replaced Sir John Harding as the British Governor of Cyprus. Foot suggested five to seven years of self-government before any final decision. His plan rejected both enosis and taksim. The Turkish Cypriot response to this plan was a series of anti-British demonstrations in Nicosia on 27th and 28th of January 1958 rejecting the proposed plan because the plan rejected partition. The British then withdrew the plan.
In June 1958 the British prime Minister Harold Macmillan was expected to proposed a plan to resolve the Cyprus issue. In light of the new development the Turks created fierce riots in Nicosia aiming to promote the idea that Greeks and Turks could not live together and therefore any plan that would promote that would not be viable, instead partition would be the only viable solution. This violence soon to be followed by bombing, Greek Cypriots deaths and looting of Greek owned stores and houses resulted in Greeks and Turks started to evade mixed populated villages that the respective were a minority in search of safety. This was effectively the beginning of segregation of the two communities.[8]. On the 7th of June 1958 a bomb exploded at the entrance of the Turkish Embassy in Cyprus. Following the bombing Turkish Cypriots looted Greek Cypriot properties. On June 26th 1984 the then Turkish Cypriot Leader, Rauf Denktaş, admitted on British channel ITV that the bomb was placed by the Turks themselves in order to create tension.[9] On the 27th of January 1958 riots by Turkish Cypriots forced the British Colonial soldiers to open fire against the Turkish crowd, and for the first time intervene against the atrocities. The events continued until the next day. During the events Arif Tahsin met Rauf Denktaş and asked: "For God sake give the order for the killings to stop". Denktaş replied : "These killings are useful, with these our voices will be heard"[10] By 1958 signs of dissatisfaction with the British increased on both signs, with Turkish Cypriots now forming Volkan, later known as the TMT paramilitary group as a means of promoting partition and the annexation of Cyprus to Turkey as dictated by the Menteres plan. TMT would also target Turkish Cypriots and then blame the Greek Cypriots for the killing and also accuse the British Colonial rule that effective measures are not taken to protect the Turkish minority.”

Originally Posted by Vord

A little honest neighborly advice. You can go ahead and drink a glass of cold water over that piece of lost land and perhaps keep another glass ready in case some spoiled, overly confident Greek leader decides to try the Turks' patience one more time.

You are quite condescending; the truth is that Turkey a much larger nation invaded a tiny, newly formed nation in turmoil, with overwhelming force. Not exactly something to brag about. And in my opinion not to save the Turks of Cyprus but to annex away land, this is evident by the constant annexation threats of your leaders, and by some of the post here. Chakos is a son of refugees and you seem to be rubbing it in, moving forward I would try show some more class.