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Reply With QuoteNo no I am just saying that that the US economy might never go back to its peak and Chinas is just going up. And I dont want China to be powerful but I think they will be.Originally Posted by Veni Vidi Vici
A) only the cheap stuff
B) It may be made in china but the companies are usualy American who are using chinese labor and therefore make most of the profit.
"Our citizenship in the United States is our national character. Our citizenship in any particular state is only our local distinction. By the latter we are known at home, by the former to the world. Our great title is AMERICANS…" -- Thomas Paine
No no I am just saying that that the US economy might never go back to its peak and Chinas is just going up. And I dont want China to be powerful but I think they will be.
The only thing that I find not made is china is my parents ford
And I think your delusional..
"Our citizenship in the United States is our national character. Our citizenship in any particular state is only our local distinction. By the latter we are known at home, by the former to the world. Our great title is AMERICANS…" -- Thomas Paine
You must not own a computer.
"Our citizenship in the United States is our national character. Our citizenship in any particular state is only our local distinction. By the latter we are known at home, by the former to the world. Our great title is AMERICANS…" -- Thomas Paine
Mine is made in China. It is a emachine
And why do you think China wont be the next super power?
Who will be the next super power?
There most likley wont be in our life time so its pointless to argue.
"Our citizenship in the United States is our national character. Our citizenship in any particular state is only our local distinction. By the latter we are known at home, by the former to the world. Our great title is AMERICANS…" -- Thomas Paine
Hold up on that one. Ill look for this report for you. Ill get back to you.
"Our citizenship in the United States is our national character. Our citizenship in any particular state is only our local distinction. By the latter we are known at home, by the former to the world. Our great title is AMERICANS…" -- Thomas Paine
O ok do you know of I way i can change my name without making a new account? Since people hate my name
contact Ironduke or Gio they are the admins.O ok do you know of I way i can change my name without making a new account? Since people hate my name
"Our citizenship in the United States is our national character. Our citizenship in any particular state is only our local distinction. By the latter we are known at home, by the former to the world. Our great title is AMERICANS…" -- Thomas Paine
Ok thankscontact Ironduke or Gio they are the admins.
Veni Vidi Vici, you have been very vocal in dismissing my belief that China will be capable of being an even match for the United States in 30 years, but you have been less good at describing exactly why you believe that. From what I've seen, you have very little to back up your claims that China will not be able to match the United States in terms of great power status within our lifetime. According to the CIA factbook, currently the Chinese GDP is nearly 6.5 trillion dollars (and I understand that these are both rough estimates), whereas the American GDP is approximately 11 trillion dollars in value. However, the American growth rate is only 3.1%, compared to a very conservative estimate of 9.1% for the Chinese economy (I say very conservative because most of the numbers I've seen elsewhere have pointed to a 10-12% growth rate). If these trends even come close to continuing, the Chinese economy will surpass the American economy before my 30 years from now scenario comes about. Why would China's armed forces be incapable of keeping pace with their economic development? Germany went from being almost completely de-militarized in 1933 to having one of the most effective armed forces in the world by 1943, and they were doing so with a comparatively small base upon which to expand! Russia also almost completely rebuilt their military after Germany destroyed it in 1941, and by the time that 1945 rolled around, they had the strongest army on earth (albeit, a weakened industrial base).
If you are going to debate with me, fine, I love to debate. But don't just dismiss what I say without explaining why. Why is thinking that China's military strength will become commensurate to it's future (and the vast majority of economists agree that this is fairly inevitable) economic power so delusional? It has always happened when new powers have risen in the past, and thinking that the United States will never be challenged by another great power is hardly logical. I am an American nationalist. I joined the military out of a desire to serve my country, and I know that America is pre-eminent in the world today. But refusing to acknowledge threats on the horizon is simply burying one's head in the sand.
I think he is going to submit an article about it
China's military is modernizing, but there are distinct limits to the modernization program. First, the current force structure is so old that the rate of retirement will exceed the rate of acquisition in all major weapons categories, with the possible exception of major surface combatants. This means that the size of China’s armed forces will continue a recent pattern of decline, and to drop quite steeply in some cases, such as combat aircraft. The only exception may be China's surface combat ships.
Second, the modernization is proceeding slowly and in a piecemeal manner. All military forces take a significant amount of time to integrate new weapon systems into its forces; for China the process seems to take longer than most.
Third, China is adding only a handful of modern systems to its inventory. New systems are purchased in small batches or singly, which is cannot dramatically change the balance of power. Moreover, while "modern" relative to existing Chinese systems, current acquisitions from Russia are not as capable as the comparable systems fielded by the United States or even Japan, South Korea, or Taiwan (in some areas).
Finally, China's military modernization plan has highlighted the inability of the indigenous arms industry in China to produce the advanced technology weapon systems that the military wants. The recent return to dependence on foreign assistance (specifically, aircraft and naval vessels from Russia, and technical assistance from Israel) runs contrary to the Chinese government’s desire to fully control its own military destiny.
China may eventually change its policies and invest more financial resources in military modernization; but for the foreseeable future, China's potential for military action in Taiwan and other areas will remain limited. China may take a more active military role in its region, but the overall balance of power in East Asia will remain unchanged.
http://www.comw.org/cmp/fulltext/iddschina.html
Cool someone finally said why China will not be. Lets just hope the EU does not become a military organization.
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