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But what has Greece to offer to the world today ? I´m not being pro-Turk/Anti-Greece or vice versa but what have you to offer to NATO/EU/etc. besides history ?

And before the greatest civilization rose , there were other people , on who´s land Greeks (or their forefathers ) settled , like Turks settled on former Greek territories . Greek settled down in Greece , what , 3500 years ago ? You are still newcomers if compared to celts for example

edited to add - ah the resident Celt was quicker than me ....

Originally Posted by braindead

edited to add - ah the resident Celt was quicker than me ....

He's just after more land, power, and butter cookies.


Glyn the Great?? )

Originally Posted by Kansas Bear

Glyn the Great?? )

When I become Emperor of the Celtic Nations that is indeed one of the titles I shall award myself!)

Originally Posted by glyn

When I become Emperor of the Celtic Nations that is indeed one of the titles I shall award myself!)

But would not one big united celtic empire be against the vrey nature of the celts itself? To my understanding a very federal union of identipendent towns would be rather more "their way".

Originally Posted by glyn

When I become Emperor of the Celtic Nations that is indeed one of the titles I shall award myself!)

Oh no. Not pan-celticism. I spent 7 pages on another forum debating with some Welsh guy who thought the U.K. would collapse under Muslim pressure and the Celts would save the day

Originally Posted by Tarek Morgen

But would not one big united celtic empire be against the vrey nature of the celts itself? To my understanding a very federal union of identipendent towns would be rather more "their way".

Oh, I'm not that fussy - as long as my portrait adorns the banknotes! )

Originally Posted by braindead

But what has Greece to offer to the world today ? I´m not being pro-Turk/Anti-Greece or vice versa but what have you to offer to NATO/EU/etc. besides history ?

And before the greatest civilization rose , there were other people , on who´s land Greeks (or their forefathers ) settled , like Turks settled on former Greek territories . Greek settled down in Greece , what , 3500 years ago ? You are still newcomers if compared to celts for example

edited to add - ah the resident Celt was quicker than me ....

My friend Hellenes didn't settled on anyone’s land according to Heraclitus we are here always and please don’t tell me about the boul...T of so called Hindoueropeans because this theory doesn't stands any ware we are NATIVES with the full meaning of the word.
Celts who?
About NATO as a former communist offcource you have much more to offer to NATO than my country which is member since 1951.

Originally Posted by antiochos

My friend Hellenes didn't settled on anyone’s land according to Heraclitus we are here always and please don’t tell me about the boul...T of so called Hindoueropeans because this theory doesn't stands any ware we are NATIVES with the full meaning of the word.
Celts who?

So you´re not from Africa as everybody else ? Locals indeed :P .
About NATO as a former communist offcource you have much more to offer to NATO than my country which is member since 1951.

Well , at least i´m not raving about The One And Pure And Greatest Civilization , That Overshadows Everything Else . And Communism / Socialism in Europe is most fervent in your area , not mine . And my country as in now has it´s soldiers in Baghdad , embedded with US cavalry and in Afghanistan with the British , and not preparing for a fight your own partner in NATO

Originally Posted by glyn

Antiochos, just because you are Greek does not mean that you should continually snipe at WABs Turkish membership. Are you prepared to dislike someone just because of their country of origin? We are all equal here. It is a level playing field. By all means contribute to a thread if you have something of interest, or a question to ask.

Yes i am Hellin and i am very proud for that and i have many reasons to feel this way.
Anyone and you offcource has a country and as a member of a nation a past behind him.
If for example your country has been under cruel occupation for more of 400 years and that has as a result your nation to lose diaphotismus the industrial revolution etc maybe you could understand me better.
Maybe if i wanted to see the things in deferent way i cannot and the reason is because the Turks which are so far (historically and geographically)are from you even in now days are continuing the sequence of their past seeking always the right moment they don’t know what peace is or dialog or further more Democracy they are just in the right place and position to be used by the international "order" in order to serve the international interests of USA UK etc witch justice and human rights are meanings with no meaning.

Originally Posted by braindead

Well , at least i´m not raving about The One And Pure And Greatest Civilization , That Overshadows Everything Else . And Communism / Socialism in Europe is most fervent in your area , not mine . And my country as in now has it´s soldiers in Baghdad , embedded with US cavalry and in Afghanistan with the British , and not preparing for a fight your own partner in NATO

About the banging of the head is ti from personal experience?

Originally Posted by braindead

Well , at least i´m not raving about The One And Pure And Greatest Civilization , That Overshadows Everything Else . And Communism / Socialism in Europe is most fervent in your area , not mine . And my country as in now has it´s soldiers in Baghdad , embedded with US cavalry and in Afghanistan with the British , and not preparing for a fight your own partner in NATO

It must be look what the banging did to you i saw it to your Avatar!

Originally Posted by antiochos

I see there are many things that you don’t know or understand, maybe you can understand that as a Turkish you don’t have any right to judge Hellas on anything and the reason is that we are not equal on anything you are not in position to do it.
I am not “screaming slogans” I am saying the historical truth and thank Allah its very well known worldwide everyone knows who are we and who you are and if you insist the next time I will present you what the greatest spirits of the world have seed and wrote for you as a nation.
I sed before in position to do it and I mean it if we see the turkey naked of its bloodshed history if we dry the Turkish history from the blood of the genocides it committed if we erase the fire and destruction which your ancestors offer as a gift to the Asia Minor Arabia Africa and Europe we see nothing nothing at all an empty black hole and the black is you real color the color of death.
Don’t be impressed by my tone it’s nothing personal you have to understand that we Hellenes NEVER gave up our rights on our lands we lost many years ago from your fathers.
You came from nowhere and took everything including their lives of our fathers and as your resent history teach as you do it every time you have the chance (see Cyprus).
You have to understand that you are sitting in the ruins of the noblest and greatest civilization in human kind you are and you always will be there as visitors the monuments all over the Asia Minor, and Cyprus to does not recognize you! Who are you?
Your fate is everything you conquer to keep it, but not too long, you always be there as visitors, strangers, remains of Barbaric Hordes.
You have nothing to offer to the world if we except your army services to the Americans you are totally a weight for the earth.
Soon remember will be the time that “your” land will be separated and your services will be no longer needed to your precious friends Americans.
Soon a great Kurdistan will be rise and that will be the start of the end of Turkey as we know it.

The strong prevail over the weak, thats the natural order of things...
in this case, the stronger turkic culture prevailed over yours, so get over it.

And your argumentation, of your ancestors being first their, ist plain stupid. With this tinking you would have to shift alot of - if not all- borders. Begining with the USA and Australia, where the natives were brutally subdued. In comparison to them, we Turks treated your people quite humane.
In fact, if we turks were anythink like your description, there would be no Greeks today but only Turks.

Originally Posted by glyn

Oh, I'm not that fussy - as long as my portrait adorns the banknotes! )

Now there's a scary thought!

Originally Posted by Kansas Bear

Now there's a scary thought!

I happen to think it a delightful thought.
Inspirational in fact! More than that!
Of an uplifting and improving nature,even.