Putin says the US is the Real Dictator

**Leader** · 04 Dec 04, 04:56

Putin Accuses U.S. of Double Standard

Fri Dec 3, 6:27 PM ET

By RAJESH MAHAPATRA, Associated Press Writer

NEW DELHI - Russian President Vladimir Putin sharply criticized the United States on Friday, accusing it of a double-standard in fighting terrorism and questioning whether any election in Iraq can be democratic when fighting is raging in the country.

Putin, who has been angered by U.S. and European denunciations of the Ukraine election as rigged unacceptable, began a three-day visit to the Cold-War era ally with continued criticism of Washington, saying it seeks a "dictatorship of international affairs." As opposed to your real dictatorship.

"Even if dictatorship is wrapped up in a beautiful package of pseuo-democratic phraseology, it will not be in a position to solve systemic problems," Russia's Itar-Tass news agency quoted him as saying in a speech Friday night in New Delhi.

Putin, who has been critical of the United States for going to war without international approval, warned that the fighting in Iraq was threatening the possibility of a democratic vote slated for Jan. 30.

"All this will definitely call in question the possibility of holding honest and democratic elections in Iraq early next year," he said.

Putin and Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh signed a joint declaration that called for ending "political expediency" in the global fight against terrorism. The declaration made no reference to any country.

But in an interview in a Hindu newspaper, Putin said the United States and European nations practiced double standards by allowing into their countries some Chechen rebels whom Moscow considers to be terrorists.

Britain has granted refugee status to Akhmed Zakayev, an envoy for rebel leader and former Chechen President Aslan Maskhadov. lyas Akhmadov, a former Chechen foreign minister, has been granted U.S. asylum.

"We cannot have double standards while fighting terrorism and it cannot be used as an instrument of a geopolitical game," Putin said at a public lecture.

Russia and India signed agreements on exploring peaceful uses of outer space, easing visa rules and India's inclusion in a Russian-promoted global navigational satellite system.

The two countries also signed eight other agreements that focused on cooperation in energy and banking, academic research, and cultural and economic exchanges between India's financial hub, Bombay, and Putin's home town, St. Petersburg.

"These decisions will make a significant contribution to the future of Russia-India relations," Putin said.

The countries, which have close relations dating back to the Cold War, also discussed new investment to commercially produce the Brahmos, an anti-ship missile developed jointly by India and Russia. The missile has a target range of 180 miles and can carry a 660-pound conventional warhead. It can be launched from ships, submarines, planes and land.

Putin will fly to Bangalore, India's software capital, on Saturday.

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**Lunatock** · 04 Dec 04, 18:31

Me thinks Putin is mad at at least one of three things.

1. Saddam was toppled and imprisoned by the Coalition of The Willing.

2. Iliyas Akhmadov, a former right hand man to Aslan Maskhadov was given asylum by the United States and resides somewhere in New England. And overall Maskhadov and the fighters with him aren't considered terrorists.

3. We're playing a big role in putting pressure on the Islamic Republic of Iran to not try to arm themselves with any nukes. While Russia is trying to aid them

**Ray** · 04 Dec 04, 18:58

Originally Posted by Lunatock

Me thinks Putin is mad at at least one of three things.

1. Saddam was toppled and imprisoned by the Coalition of The Willing.

2. Iliyas Akhmadov, a former right hand man to Aslan Maskhadov was given asylum by the United States and resides somewhere in New England. And overall Maskhadov and the fighters with him aren't considered terrorists.

3. We're playing a big role in putting pressure on the Islamic Republic of Iran to not try to arm themselves with any nukes. While Russia is trying to aid them

Can anyone tell me what the TIME magazine has to say on Ukraine?

**Lunatock** · 04 Dec 04, 19:06

Originally Posted by Ray

Can anyone tell me what the TIME magazine has to say on Ukraine?

No idea. if it were up to me a USMC/USAF/Spec Op force would be called apon to occupy the Ukraine and the Ukraines very own Juliya Chernetsky would be made interim president.

**Ray** · 04 Dec 04, 19:08

And the Russians would allow you to do so?

**ajaybhutani** · 04 Dec 04, 21:04

Originally Posted by Lunatock

No idea. if it were up to me a USMC/USAF/Spec Op force would be called apon to occupy the Ukraine and the Ukraines very own Juliya Chernetsky would be made interim president.

that will be a beginning of a BIg conflict. I dont think americans have the balls to attack on the borders of Russia without a big reason.

**Leader** · 05 Dec 04, 01:28

Originally Posted by ajaybhutani

that will be a beginning of a BIg conflict. I dont think americans have the balls to attack on the borders of Russia without a big reason.

I has nothing to do with "balls."

**ajaybhutani** · 05 Dec 04, 02:11

Originally Posted by Leader

I has nothing to do with "balls."

if u dont like the word replace it by guts/daring etc etc..

**Leader** · 05 Dec 04, 02:20

Originally Posted by ajaybhutani

if u dont like the word replace it by guts/daring etc etc..

It has nothing to do with the whole general concept not the word you used.

**ajaybhutani** · 05 Dec 04, 02:52

Originally Posted by Leader

It has nothing to do with the whole general concept not the word you used.

well firstly there can be no UN mission as it wil be vetoed out by Russia.
So whats left is iraq like stuff. And doing all that on borders of Russia isnt real good for NATO.For its russian sphere of influence and so russians surely deserve to intervene militarily if the need be and not US.

**Leader** · 05 Dec 04, 03:15

Originally Posted by ajaybhutani

so russians surely deserve to intervene militarily if the need be and not US.

Not to install a dictatorship.

**Lunatock** · 06 Dec 04, 17:46

Originally Posted by Ray

And the Russians would allow you to do so?

Good point. Better call off the invasion because Russia is opposed to it.

**Ray** · 06 Dec 04, 18:27

No try it.

We will enjoy it.

Arm twisting of little fries is fine.

Try another guy your size.

**ajaybhutani** · 07 Dec 04, 02:32

Originally Posted by Leader

Not to install a dictatorship.

just the kind of govt installed by US in iraq afganistan etc etc.. LOL..

**Leader** · 07 Dec 04, 05:25

Originally Posted by ajaybhutani

just the kind of govt installed by US in iraq afganistan etc etc.. LOL..

Wrong, but we'll go our separate ways here because this thread isn't about Iraq.

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