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    Arms race fears as Putin attacks missiles plan

    Arms race fears as Putin attacks missiles plan

    By Adrian Blomfield in Moscow
    Last Updated: 1:47am GMT 02/02/2007

    Vladimir Putin, the Russian president, prompted fears of a renewed arms race yesterday after he described American plans to move missiles into eastern Europe as an act of aggression against Moscow.

    In comments echoing the rhetoric of an earlier age, Mr Putin said that Russia would develop a new generation of inter-continental missiles capable of breaching the defensive shield Washington plans to build in Poland and the Czech republic.

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    Mr Putin pledged an 'extremely effective response'

    Last month Washington unveiled plans to construct a radar station and deploy interceptor missiles in eastern Europe in what it said was an attempt to counter the growing military threat of rogue states such as Iran.

    But Mr Putin, by his own admission in a combative mood, said it was clear that the Pentagon had Russia rather than Iran in mind, and the trajectory and range of Teheran's missiles meant that the positioning of the shield did not make sense.

    "These arguments do not hold water, in our opinion, and that has a direct bearing on us," he said at his annual press conference in the Kremlin. "And, of course, it will provoke a corresponding reaction."

    Pledging an "extremely effective response", the president boasted that Russia's existing Topol-M missiles were already capable of penetrating the proposed defence shield but insisted that the threat warranted a boosting of the country's strategic offensive capabilities.

    "We are not going to stop there," he said. "We will develop new generation systems which will be immune to the anti-missile defence systems currently being planned. They will be simply powerless." Russia is already in the process of developing a "hyper-sound, high precision" missile capable of adjusting altitude and course as they travel and strike targets within the United States.

    Mr Putin's comments are likely to cause alarm but not surprise in Washington. Relations between Russia and many Western countries are at the worst since the Cold War as concerns mount over Mr Putin's democratic record and his purported use of energy as a political lever.

    Some military analysts, however, have argued that deployment of a missile shield in former Warsaw Pact countries was an unnecessarily provocative move. European leaders will also be concerned by Mr Putin's revelations that he was considering a proposal, backed by Iran, to create a gas equivalent of the Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries, or Opec.

    The move is being seen as an attempt to prevent Europe finding alternative sources of gas. Angela Merkel, the German chancellor, has said the continent should look for ways to reduce its dependency on Russian energy after Moscow interrupted supplies to Europe for the second time in 12 months.

    Russian officials have begun a drive to boost ties with Algeria, another major supplier of gas, and Moscow could try to draw the north African country into the new organisation. Although Opec regularly meets to decide production quotas that help dictate world prices, Mr Putin said that the organisation would not be a cartel and insisted that Russia was a reliable supplier of energy.

    The Russian leader again defended the Kremlin against accusations of involvement in the murder of Alexander Litvinenko. Mr Putin, a former KGB officer who went on to head its successor organisation, the FSB, portrayed the former intelligence officer as a small-time criminal who had no access to state secrets who was therefore not worth killing.
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    Another Cold War in the offing?

    The EU's plan on Kosovo will be another hot potato, apart from upgrading the defence of EU by getting the Missile Defence closer to the Russian border.

    Things are once again hotting up in the world. Russia already is helping Iran, now she is turning to Algeria, apart from building some sort of a naval arrangement with Syria.

    Once again, the lines will be divided between us and them!

    Dangerous times ahead!


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    Here it goes.

    Bush wants to squeeze Iran and Russia is opening up avenues to help Iran!

    And China making strong inroads into Africa before the world becomes savvy to what she is up to!


    Russia considers cooperating with Iran to sell natural gas
    By Steven Lee Myers
    Published: February 1, 2007

    MOSCOW: Even as the United States intensified its efforts to isolate Iran, President Vladimir Putin said Thursday that Russia would consider OPEC- like cooperation with Iran on sales of natural gas. He stopped short of endorsing price fixing, however, saying he was concerned only with ensuring stable supplies for consuming nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Another Cold War in the offing?

    The EU's plan on Kosovo will be another hot potato, apart from upgrading the defence of EU by getting the Missile Defence closer to the Russian border.

    Things are once again hotting up in the world. Russia already is helping Iran, now she is turning to Algeria, apart from building some sort of a naval arrangement with Syria.

    Once again, the lines will be divided between us and them!

    Dangerous times ahead
    !
    Quite agree Ray, President Putin however does seem far more "approachable" (for want of a better phrase)than previous Russian leaders, could good effective diplomacy in this day and age prevent mistakes of the past?
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    Putin already had a show of Russian Naval military strength in mind just previous to the submarine Kursk sinking. After Kursk sunk it kind of put him in a neutral mode of thinking for awhile. The media showed that he had some concerns after she sunk.(rather unfortunate). But it went far deeper.

    He had plans of sailing a Kirov, Admirial Kutz (CV) i believe and the Kursk as the show piece of the Russian military strength. But when Kursk sunk it put the "kabash" on his plans. Dont be surprised to see him attempt again in the near future.

    This was revealed in the book "Lost subs"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Another Cold War in the offing?

    The EU's plan on Kosovo will be another hot potato, apart from upgrading the defence of EU by getting the Missile Defence closer to the Russian border.

    Things are once again hotting up in the world. Russia already is helping Iran, now she is turning to Algeria, apart from building some sort of a naval arrangement with Syria.

    Once again, the lines will be divided between us and them!

    Dangerous times ahead!
    Aint that the truth Ray , but lets hope its only sabre rattling .






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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray View Post
    Another Cold War in the offing?
    The Russians couldn't afford the last cold war, they are in no position to afford another one. What really bugs Putin is he failed to negotiate away his nuclear weapons fast enough or get enough for them. Now the US is in one move rendering his existing weapons worthless at the negotiating table and forcing him to spend scarce money just to get back to where he was seven years ago.

    Things are once again hotting up in the world. Russia already is helping Iran
    That makes a certain amount of sense for the Russians. They failed to get anything meaningful from the west in return for imploding. Now they are stuck with stirring up trouble. Unfortunately, Iran is in need of more than just second hand weapons. What Iran really needs is capital, something the Russians are chronically short of.

    now she is turning to Algeria, apart from building some sort of a naval arrangement with Syria.
    If only Russia had a navy.

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    Good points wabpilot!^^^

    Well I daresay Russia cna afford another cold war butthey are maiing money.

    The country's GDP (PPP) soared to $1.5 trillion in 2004, making it the ninth largest economy in the world and the fifth largest in Europe. If the current growth rate is sustained, the country is expected to become the second largest European economy after Germany and the sixth largest in the world within a few years.

    In 2005, according to the Federal Service of State Statistics, GDP reached $765 billion nominally (21.7 trillion rubles), equal to $1.6 trillion in international dollars (PPP; purchasing power parity). Inflation was 10.9% percent. Expenditures of the consolidated budget have reached 5942 billion rubles ($215 billion). The government plans to reduce the tax burden, although the time and scale of such a reduction remains undecided. However, some experts ([3] [4]) believe that official statistic underestimates Russian GDP by 28% because of inaccuracy of decades old statistical system (for example, it didn’t count small enterprises and whole sectors of new economy). IMSG estimated that nominal Russian GDP reached $970 billion in 2005 [5].
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    In 2005 Russia exported 241.3 billion dollars and imported 98.5 billion dollars. This means that Russia registered a trade surplus of 142.8 billion dollars in 2005, up about 33% from 2004's foreign trade surplus of $106.1 billion dollars.[6]

    It's estimated what direct foreign investment reach at least $23 billion in 2006[7].

    On January 5, 2007 Russia's international reserves reached $303.9 billion nominally and projected to grow to $350–450 billion by the end of 2007 [8][9].

    Thanks to high oil prices, Russian oil exports totaled $117 billion in 2005 while gas exports totaled $32 billion in the same year. That means that oil and gas made up 60% of total Russian exports in 2005.[10]

    Knowing the importance of oil and gas to the economy, a Stabilization Fund was formed by the government in January 2004. This fund takes in revenues from oil and gas exports and is designed to help offset oil market volatility. This fund was also set up in order to prevent the ruble from appreciating. The Stabilization Fund (SF) grew to $76.6 billion in November 2006. Russia's Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Zhukov said in October 2006 the fund will continue to increase over the coming years, and will exceed $149 billion by late 2007 and about $260.4 billion by the end of 2009. Russia is paying off its foreign debt mainly from the Stabilization Fund, which hit $76.9 billion as of July 1. Russia repaid the bulk of its outstanding debt to the Paris Club of Creditor Nations on August 18-21. The debt totaled $1.9 billion as of October 1, compared to $23.7 billion on July 1. [11]
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    MOSCOW --Russia's economy is growing at an impressive rate of about 7 percent, President Vladimir Putin said Wednesday, hailing the oil-rich country's newfound financial muscle that allowed it to pay down its Soviet-era debts this year.
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    "Success in any country is determined first of all by what happens in the economy," he told a nationally televised question-and-answer session, his fifth such appearance since coming to office in 2000.

    "In all, I can say we are satisfied with how the country is developing, including the economy," said Putin, who reeled off a string of positive statistics and touted his government's efforts to keep inflation in check and attract foreign investment.
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    Maybe in the future but for now there's no way in hell they can start another cold war. Russia is however a huge arms exporter and arms other rogue states in hopes to foil US efforts(S300,GPS jammers,Kolchuga, ATGM"s etc).
    Not to mention soviet satellite states have nuclear material "garage sales".

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    You say as if Russia was going to start another cold war.
    And Kolchuga is Ukrainian product, not Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrFirst View Post
    You say as if Russia was going to start another cold war.
    And Kolchuga is Ukrainian product, not Russian.
    I was aaying it's possible in the future.
    My bad about the ukranian thing.

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