French armed forces

**ZFBoxcar** · 21 Dec 03, 20:00

well, hitler went against his generals wishes when he created army group north, south and central, i dont know if a singular drive towards Moscow would have done it, but it probly would have worked better. Or just not declaring war on the USSR period. The Soviets were giving them oil and natural resources for practically nothing. If theyd kept up the non-agression pact there wouldnt be an eastern front. Everything could have gone to Africa (or Britain, depending on the strategy). Its doubtful the Western Allies would have tried a landing if the Soviets werent fighting in the east. Who knows, maybe they could have mustered the forces to invade Britain? I'm not sure about that, but its possible.

**Lunatock** · 22 Dec 03, 00:59

Originally posted by s_qwert63
More or less correct.
The only correct statement I have ever seen you make.
The bare fact that 85% of all Wehrmacht forces were on the Soviet Front just speaks for itself.
The 21st Panzer and the 1st Fallschirmjaeger were in Normandy by pure luck, they were refitting from the ass kicking they received around Dniepr.

Doubtfull. Highly doubtfull. More like Axis mistakes lead to Russia not falling to them.

Seems the PTO was overlooked. There was a whole other army on the other side of Russia. That had it's hands full with America & British Troops.

If it hadn't been for Pearl Harbor. And Hitler & Hirahito(sp?) being uncoordinated, if not foolish. They could of taken Russia if they had done a pincer move on it.

**smilingassassin** · 22 Dec 03, 06:22

What really gets me in a huff are these so called "history experts" who state that this country lost the war, this country kicked ass and this one went wee wee wee all the way home, its a slap in the face to all those who fought in the war! Each nation on its own could not stand up to germany. Russia could not have won the battle on their own, if it wasn't for the rest of the allies helping the Ruskies stock up on weapons and supply's (dieing in artic convoys I might add) while jerry froze in the cold, russia would have folded in the spring. The Americans learned valueable convoy tactics and gained from Britains war experience and for what the British stockpiled they did well considering the germans had superior numbers in aircraft they denied the germans the local air superiority they needed for "sealion", its erelavant if it the invasion would have succeeded or not.
If it wasn't for the other allies the russians would have had nearly double the enemy forces to deal with, all the allies neeeded each other to win and they gave each other the oppertunity to deal out crushing blows to the axis powers.

**ChrisF202** · 22 Dec 03, 19:58

In the above picture, is the FFL sniper carring the Lebel rifle?

**kaskad** · 23 Dec 03, 06:19

nice.. have you got any more, and perhatps a better quality pictures of the FFL guys ?
BTW, that Mistral thing, is that an AA Louncher ? it looks kind like our "Strela"

Regards,
kaskad

**Officer of Engineers** · 25 Dec 03, 05:54

Originally posted by Lunatock
If it hadn't been for Pearl Harbor. And Hitler & Hirahito(sp?) being uncoordinated, if not foolish. They could of taken Russia if they had done a pincer move on it.

The IJA tried and got its ass kicked by Zhukov before he headed West to deal with the Werhmacht. And he left 43 div that were eventually used to kill the IJA in China.

Japan would have lost the war alot sooner had they tried to move against the Soviets.

**troung** · 18 Jan 04, 01:32

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**Ironduke** · 18 Jan 04, 03:10

Last pic, why isn't that guy wearing face camo?

**Praxus** · 19 Jan 04, 04:42

He doesn't need to hide, he wouldn't want to be mistaken for someone not surrenduring!

**Ironduke** · 19 Jan 04, 05:16

Heh

**Praxus** · 21 Jan 04, 00:51

If a time comes when we aren't allowed to make fun of the french, I don't want to be alive.:D

**~~Anvilanthony~~** · 20 Feb 04, 07:14

Ummm not only did we hand Germany's ass to itself but as I last recall we also fought another war on the otherside of the world against another foe called ummmm Japan I think it was called and I don't remember anyone other than us who were fighting them.

If I remember correctly also it was Japan who practically sunk the entire russian fleet in the early 1900's.

**Officer of Engineers** · 20 Feb 04, 07:42

Originally posted by Anvilanthony
Ummm not only did we hand Germany's ass to itself

No, you didn't. That credit belongs to the USSR. The US helped and helped big time but over 70% of German casualties was caused by the Soviets.

Originally posted by Anvilanthony
but as I last recall we also fought another war on the otherside of the world against another foe called ummmm Japan I think it was called and I don't remember anyone other than us who were fighting them.

China, Australia, the Philipines, the British and through them, India, and a small contingent from Canada, at the end of that war, the Red Army also destroyed all Japanese forces in Manchuria. Dead wrong that the US was in this one alone

Originally posted by Anvilanthony
If I remember correctly also it was Japan who practically sunk the entire russian fleet in the early 1900's.

The Russo-Japanese War was a Phyric victory for Japan. The Japanese spent their army in the ground war.

**ChrisF202** · 20 Feb 04, 15:23

the Philipines

I dont mean to be a know it all, but the Philiphines was an American colony till 1946, its small military was part of the US Army and consisted of mixed American and Filipino units.

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