Kashmir belonged to India. It does not even compare. As for Tibet, India recognized China as having sovereignty over Tibet up to the Mchahon line.Originally Posted by gunnut
See, you believe Kashmire belongs to India. Other interested parties don't. Hence the dispute.
Japanese believes Diaoyutai / Senkaku Isles belong to them. Other parties don't. Hence the dispute.
No one disputes Dehli belongs to India. So we aren't arguing over it.
No one disputes Tokyo belongs to Japan. China isn't asking for it. No dispute.
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
What do you think the Indian Navy is doing off the Somali coast? Sightseeing?
Chimo
No but going against the piracy which have tried to hijack Indian vessels in international waters. You claim that I m missing the forest for the trees. Well you are just comparing apples and oranges.
India has a legitimate claim to Kashmir. I don't see how China has a legitimate claim to the Spratyl islands and yet they continue to assert claims over that area despite overwhelming proof that other countries have far superior claims to those areas. Case in point: China claimed to the oil blocks whose distance to China were more than the distance to Vietnam and which was southward.
If you want to quibble over Kashmir, fine but don't deny that India has a very compelling claim to Kashmir whereas China's claims to those islands were not based on maritime economic zone but on some whimsy so called historical claim that happened centuries ago.
Have any of you seen the structures built on some of those sand bars in the Spratley's?
Legitimate to you doesn't mean legitimate to me.
Possession is 9/10 of the law.
Might makes right.
That's why UK still owns the Falklands and the Russians still own the Kuril Islands.
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
Oh come on, Hitesh, do a search. How many Indian fishing vessels were taken within 200 miles of the Somali coast? There's a reason why fishing boats became pirate boats.
As for the Chinese illegitimate claims, they are as valid as the Battle of Queenston Heights. The Chinese have never lost a military engagement in the Spratleys and they defeated then the South Vietnamese Navy to those islands.
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Chimo
I mutiny if ordered to stay there.
Chimo
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I think the Russians will have them.
Looking on the map they are closer then China. know how to take islands in those waters, and it's a place looking perfect for Putin to conquer on his own
On a serious note, why every rock that pops out of the ocean must have a landlord?
No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
Because that extends your territorial boundaries & thus your control over sea lanes & any resources under the water or under the sea bed. In many of these cases there are or may be undersea resources. As the technology for finding & extractig resources improves previuosly useless pieces of ocean suddenly become rather valuable. Sometimes it is also just a a national pissing contest, but I don't imagine I need to tell you just how adolescent people can get about the smallest inch of 'their' territory when the mood takes them.I think the Russians will have them.
Looking on the map they are closer then China. know how to take islands in those waters, and it's a place looking perfect for Putin to conquer on his own
On a serious note, why every rock that pops out of the ocean must have a landlord?
Win nervously lose tragically - Reds C C
I understand all that, but there should be a limit from mainland or closest island, especially for not populated ones.
As for the pissing contest two thumbs up.
No such thing as a good tax - Churchill
To make mistakes is human. To blame someone else for your mistake, is strategic.
Take a look at the effect of Australia owning Norfolk and Macquarie Islands on the boundaries between NZ and Australia, even though both are on NZ's continental plate.
Smaal Islands matter greatly
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Socialism is simply the Collective denial of responsibility.
No one has pushed them around since 1949.
Their former pushers (Japan) were reduced and were a surrendered country.
They have been assisting/ arming almost every commie guerilla force against their neighbours and in Africa, since the past 60 odd years.
Last edited by lemontree; 18 Jul 12, at 11:00.
Cheers!...on the rocks!!
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