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Reply With QuoteHaha, that's the best you can do? :POriginally Posted by cdude
When we were making our computers here, we didn't have to replace our keyboards every year.
Don't care. Not our problem after that.
Was it really "allowed" or were you forced to?
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
Haha, that's the best you can do? :P
When we were making our computers here, we didn't have to replace our keyboards every year.
Ask Mao
Tibet might be faraway, but it's ours
why not throw your Ipod at your HDTV while you are at it?
Now that's exaggerating.
When we were making our computers here, we didn't have to replace our keyboards every year.
Tibet might be faraway, but it's ours
Can't you at least recite the party line to me? I mean, no thinking involved. Just repeat the daily kommie briefing.
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
Lol. You keep listing American inventions as something I can't live without.
Surely a chicom fanboy like yourself could come up with something useful the Chinese have made on their own in say, the 20th century?
Honestly I cannot. Oh maybe like this: Mongolia is our friendly neighbor. China and Mongolia respect each other's integrity of sovereignty.
We'll take their coal mines when we run out of ours.
Tibet might be faraway, but it's ours
Didn't say I could. US had a great century, no doubt about that.Lol. You keep listing American inventions as something I can't live without.
Surely a chicom fanboy like yourself could come up with something useful the Chinese have made on their own in say, the 20th century?
Tibet might be faraway, but it's ours
There you go. Own up to your imperialistic ways. You'll get more respect from me than trying to justify it by pointing out someone else's ancient history. That's all I ask.
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
All powerful countries are imperialistic, no? Did I ever deny that China is imperialistic? But I would argue it's better for the locals to have a Chinese ruler than a god-king ruler or a mullah-ruler.
Tibet might be faraway, but it's ours
I actually agree with you on this.
The really funny thing is those Hollyweird types who are absolutely against a religious theocracy but support Tibet independence.
"Only Nixon can go to China." -- Old Vulcan proverb.
GM and Chrysler filed bankruptcy in US. Surprisingly, GM China is doing very well.
A year without 'Made in China' / The Christian Science Monitor - CSMonitor.com
Hope that you try this too and then let us know your experience.
About stolen IP, we are inspired from the founding fathers of USA:
A U.S. Technology Double Standard? by Doron Ben-Atar - The Globalist
About America is waking up, I really don’t think America is ever totally slept.
Outsourcing manufacturing jobs to China and importing products from China are the business decisions made by American business decision makers based on profit consideration. Most American big companies are doing well in China.
Blocked by UAW, GM did not outsource enough to China and had to file bankruptcy in US.
If GM can stand up to UAW like what it did during shutting down Buick Flint plants in Michigan, GM will be in a much better situation. The production line moved to Shanghai from Flint is very profitable right now. Of course, how to deal with the decline of Flint is a whole new issue need to be addressed by Americans.
Overall, I consider that the Sino-America Corporation in economic field benefits both sides and it is a win-win solution.
In the short run, it may benefit China more. But in long run, it will eventually benefit both sides in a similar way. Imagine a 1.3 billion people fast growing market, no big global companies can afford to miss it.
In most areas, the strong points of China and America manufacturing are not overlapping. So they are in complement instead of competing with each other. America produces high-tech products and China produces low-tech products.
But the competition is coming to the high-tech filed. Right now, some American company’s solution to handle such a competition is to also outsource the high-tech jobs to China.
Motorola lay off several hundred of engineers in Chicago not long ago and hired several hundred of engineers in Hangzhou, China. The Chinese employees in Chicago were given the option of transferring to China with 1/3 of their current salary. The new hires for the lowest level engineers in China require minimum 2 ~ 3 years of working experience with a Master degree. This requirement is higher than Motorola hires employee in US. The job transferring includes some Motorola’s cutting edge development. The reason forced Motorola to make such a decision is that Huawei is already ahead of Motorola in both R&D and manufacturing in the networking and telecommunications.
Huawei-a world-leading telecom solutions provider
Huawei - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Last edited by Zeng1; 11 Feb 10, at 02:18.
Stop thumbing your chest. The simple fact is that the work is not worth that much. The Americans have already done the hard work and got paid for it. They now need maintenance work which could be done cheaper in Asia. In short, you get what you pay for. Period. The R&D stuff is still done in the US and paid for in the US. This being a global economy, the work will shift to where it is best suited and best paid for.
Oh, incidently, Zeng, you freaking idiot. Highseas is a retired F-15 engineer who owns his own areaonutical business.
In other words, LITTLE BOY, stop spouting crap you know sh!t about.
Chimo
No thumbing my chest here and agree that shipping jobs to China is for cost reduction as well as the market competition.
I already pointed out, Motorola pays 1/3 US salary to transfer Chinese employee to China.
Whether it only transferred maintenance work to China not including R&D, you don’t need to believe me and please make your own confirmation with someone in Motorola.
I don’t need to make flammable argument with you.
No! You've made the allegations. It's your job to prove it OR GET OUT. I don't care which.
Chimo
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