Thread: Sino - South America Military Relations.

Chinese 37 AAA

Type 65

You are welcome.

I am grateful to you for the information and pictures you provided in this thread which I had never come across before.

I googled with key words 'HJ-8 Bolivia', and the only relevant link is this:

http://razonyfuerza.mforos.com/55643...o-kojak/?pag=3

It's a South American forum, and members there communicate in Spanish. They were talking about a light combat vehicle there (Made in Bolivia: Tactical Assault Vehicle "Kojak"). Here's some google translated info in that web page:

Use of RPG-7 (Photo: Collection HCM)

The first prototype of the vehicle but was not charged individually with the weaponry by its crew (FN FAL) an RPG-7 rocket launcher and a machine gun or Instalaza FN MAG-60. Currently the standard is a FN MAG machine gun 7.62mm x 51mm as the main weapon in addition to the weapons mentioned earlier.

The purchase used allows the adaptation of other armaments, with the possibility of placing a heavy Browning machine gun or other similar caliber, as well as new Chinese FSR.


Mounting FSR of Chinese origin.
The most advanced version includes a montage of four Chinese rockets surface are confirmed and if the information submitted in early November of 2005, will be riding the HJ-8 anti-tank missile at some of these vehicles.

The towing capacity of the vehicle allows the displacement of several types of mortars and ammunition be additional or other implements.

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In Bolivia

The HJ-8 anti-tank missiles were acquired by Bolivia between 2000 and 2002. This material was originally brought to the RA-6 Bilbao where he conducted courses with Chinese material, its movement today is unknown. Until October this year (2005) the existence of this material had been classified as "secret" and therefore was not published in any form of official or unofficial press, the daily La Prensa reported to the official reason for the "crisis of Missile [HN-5]. " The publication of photographs (Bolivian) of these missiles remains restricted, so we do not have national photos illustrating this article. The quantity of missiles is unknown but is estimated at 50 pitchers.

Few Latin American countries have anti-tank guided missiles quality (such as the TOW, of which Argentina has only six tubes / pitchers) in this regard Bolivia is in a good position (if the correct figures). However, by not counting our country with appropriate means armored territorial extension to our neighbors we must seek balance and acquire more units of this type. Likewise we must disseminate its use to other regiments, until now, only trained in the RPG, Instalaza and even the old M-20.

Despite being described as a portable system, the HJ-8 with all its complementary equipment is a little heavy for two operators when it comes to long distances, so there are plans adapting and fitting in light vehicles, as the Tactical Vehicle Assault of Koyak or multipurpose HMMWV ideal candidates for this purpose.

Btw, it's a great wonder to see google doing such a good job in translating Spanish into English, while its capability to translate Chinese is total disaster...

Well, Spanish and English both belong to the Indo European language family.

Z-11 in Chilean service

From Military Review.

http://usacac.army.mil/CAC2/Military...031_art011.pdf


47In Uncle Sam’s Backyard: China’s Military Influence in Latin America

Loro Horta

Beijing’s rising economic and political influence in Latin America may pave the way for major Chinese arms sales and expansion of China’s military influence.

an interesting note, Loro Horta is a graduate of the National Defense University of PLA.

COMIEC in Peru

Type 56 and Type 81 in service with Bolivia military

So they have a Spanish site and who cares about it? lol.

::Marineros chinos realizarán prácticas en Brasil::

Google translated:

Chinese sailors in Brazil practice
Updated 20.05.2009 at 08:42:12


BRASILIA, May 19 (Xinhua) - The Navy of Brazil will provide training to officers of the Navy of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) of China, especially in the operation of aircraft carriers, announced today the Brazilian Defense Minister Nelson Jobim.

The minister said this to the press Tuesday that cooperation was agreed during the visit of the Brazilian Navy commander, Carlos Soares de Moura Neto, the Asian country in April, the feast of the 60th anniversary of the founding of the PLA Navy.

"Admiral Moura Neto was in China, and we are committed to train Chinese officers in the Brazilian ships and even aircraft carriers in Sao Paulo," Jobim said.

"China wants to return to Marina, but need instruction, so it was agreed that Chinese would come to train, to learn. They are especially interested in aircraft carriers," he added.

In March, Defense Minister of China, General Liang Guanglie, highlighted the need for China to possess an aircraft carrier, because it is the only country among the major powers of the world who do not possess.

The Brazilian minister stressed that the naval cooperation could be the starting point for other initiatives in the area of defense.

"In China what we have in the field of defense is that possibility. And you know that starts with that, then things are happening," he said.

Jobim also anticipated that it will be a good time for China to define the details of that agreement.

China maintains a strategic alliance with Brazil since 1993, including increased cooperation in the technological area, and this year became its biggest trading partner, overtaking the United States.

During the visit to Beijing that President Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva launched on Monday also agreed a loan of 10,000 million dollars granted by the Development Bank of China to the state oil company Petrobras.

With that claim, the Brazilian oil prentende expand oil exploration in the Brazilian continental submarine bed.

Google translation still amazes me with the good job translating Spanish into English, although I believe this sentence here:

e inclusive en el portaaviones Sao Paulo

Doesn't mean 'even aircraft carriers in Sao Paulo', but rather 'even the aircraft carrier Sao Paulo'.

A Brazilian website (Defesa@Net) interviewed Brazilian Minister of Defence on 9th of May. Here's the link (the webpage is in Portugese):

DEFESA@NET -Ministro da Defesa fala à Defesa@Net

Google translated, part on stuff related to China:

Defense @ Net - A range of military approaches to China. As you see this approach with China under the Ministry of Defense?
Min Jobim - The rapprochement with China is more directed toward the Navy. They (the Chinese) want the Navy of Brazil is the point of connection for the creation of the Chinese Navy. China has no navy. Also we will bring Chinese official here. They will stage. Of course they have to learn Portuguese.

They will stage the aircraft carrier São Paulo. The Chinese are acquiring aircraft carriers to project power in the region, a situation completely different from ours. I am going to China from September or October.
Note DEFENSE @ NET - On 23, the Alte Esq Moura Neto was invited to represent all stakeholders and to Marine, on behalf of all, thanks to a speech by President of China, Hu Jintao for the celebrations of 60 years of the PLA Navy . Link


Defense @ Net - When the visit of the vice-chairman of Central Military Commission of China, General Xu Caihou was informed that the Lord would in China ...
Min Jobim - The President is now on China, but I will not accompany him. I will in September or October to China, India and South Korea, where we have major strategic interests of departures. This is crucial to show our autonomy. Does not depend on to get a line that we had only.
Note DEFENSE @ NET - President Luiz Inácio visit to Saudi Arabia (16-17 May), China (18-20 May) and Turkey (20-23 May)

Defense @ Net - There is some expectation of industrial cooperation between the two countries (Brazil and China)?
Min Jobim - This can occur from these talks between the two countries. Today China is very strong in Africa, for example. I will go to Africa in a few days to meet the Ministers of Defense of the Portuguese language. I go to the Republic of Congo and Angola and Namibia. And not only going to Angola, will also Algeria where there is a significant industrial understanding. Namibia was the area where there was more exchange of links with the Brazilian Navy. We have built the Navy in Namibia. Also, we incorporate the Marine Namibia a coastal patrol ship yard produced by INAC of Ceará.

The Argentines are also training on the Brazilian aircraft carrier now. They wanna open a driving school? lol.

Bolivia Looks To China, Brazil For Combat Aircraft - Defense News


Bolivia Looks To China , Brazil For Combat Aircraft

AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE
Published: 31 Aug 2009 14:18



LA PAZ , Bolivia - Bolivia is looking to buy six combat aircraft from China or Brazil after the U.S. blocked the sale of Czech planes, Defense Minister Walker San Miguel said in remarks published Aug. 31.

"They could be Chinese or they could be Super Tucanos from Brazil , one or the other," San Miguel was quoted as saying an in interview with the newspaper La Razon.

He provided few details on the status of negotiations with either country.

The government of leftist President Evo Morales last year tried to buy six L-159 ALCA two-seater light combat aircraft, made with U.S. components, from the Czech Republic for $58 million.

But Morales disclosed in July that the sale had been vetoed by Washington .

Bolivia also has been negotiating to buy arms and equipment from Russia worth about $100 million, including an Antonov aircraft for presidential travel outside the country.