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    Obama to Visit China This Year After Hu’s Invitation (Update2)
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    By Hans Nichols and Michael Forsythe

    April 1 (Bloomberg) -- President Barack Obama will visit China this year after being invited by Chinese President Hu Jintao today, and both leaders agreed to set up a regular talks.

    Obama and Hu agreed to establish a “U.S.-China Strategic and Economic Dialogue” to discuss financial, trade and other issues between the two countries, the White House said in a statement. Both sides vowed to combat protectionism that may be arising amid the global recession.

    “The relationship between the U.S. and China has become extremely constructive,” Obama said. “Our economic relationships are very strong.”

    Obama and Hu met at Winfield House, the residence of the U.S. ambassador to the U.K., where Obama is staying. Obama, Hu and other leaders of the Group of 20 developed and emerging economies are in London to discuss a unified response to the global financial crisis.

    “Good relations with the U.S. are not only in the interests of the two peoples, but also beneficial to peace, stability and prosperity of the Asia-Pacific region, and the world at large,” Hu said, according to the official Xinhua News Agency.

    Washington Dialogue

    The U.S. will hold the first round of the “Strategic and Economic Dialogue” this summer in Washington, according to a White House statement. Talks on the economy will be led by Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner for the U.S. and Vice Premier Wang Qishan for the Chinese. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Chinese State Councilor Dai Bingguo will lead the “strategic track,” the statement said.

    The talks build on work done by Henry Paulson, former President George W. Bush’s Treasury secretary, who presided over a “Strategic Economic Dialogue” between China and the U.S. Those talks paired officials in the two countries to discuss and coordinate policies on issues including trade, financial-market regulation, climate change and energy security.

    On the financial crisis, Obama and Hu agreed to “help the world economy return to strong growth and to strengthen the international financial system so a crisis of this magnitude never happens again,” according to the statement.

    One issue that didn’t arise between Obama and Hu was a proposal by China’s top banker to replace the dollar as the world’s reserve currency, according to an administration official.

    Reserve Currency

    Russia and China are coordinating attempts to replace the dollar as the dominant medium of exchange in global trade. Russian President Dmitry Medvedev has repeatedly called for creating regional reserve currencies as part of the drive to address the global financial crisis. China’s Central Bank Governor Zhou Xiaochuan urged the International Monetary Fund last week to move toward a “super-sovereign reserve currency.”

    Obama and Geithner, who is accompanying the president at the G-20 meetings, have rejected such suggestions.

    China is the biggest foreign buyer of U.S. debt. The official said Hu didn’t reiterate comments made by Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao last month that China is “worried” about its holdings of U.S. government debt. At the end of January, China held $739.6 billion in U.S. Treasury securities, according to the U.S. Treasury.

    Obama and Hu also agreed to “resume and expand consultations on non-proliferation and other international security topics,” cooperate on climate change and a possible North Korean missile launch.

    Obama told Hu that he was deeply concerned about the missile launch, scheduled for as early as April 4, a U.S. official said, speaking on condition on anonymity. The official told reporters at a briefing that there would be a reaction to the launch, and said the issue would be raised in the United Nations Security Council.

    To contact the reporters on this story: Michael Forsythe in Washington at mforsythe@bloomberg.net; Hans Nichols in Washington at hnichols2@bloomberg.net.

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    I think at this point, no one would argue that the sino-us econ relationship is not important.










    Zero Percent on Treasury Bills as China, Fed Converge (Update3)
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    By Daniel Kruger

    April 20 (Bloomberg) -- The last time U.S. Treasury bill rates headed toward zero percent investors were panicking. Now it’s an indication Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke’s efforts to revive credit markets are starting to work.

    Rates on three-month bills turned negative in December for the first time since the government began selling them in 1929 as investors sacrificed returns to preserve principal. After increasing at the start of the year, rates have dropped 0.20 percentage point since the beginning of February to 0.13 percent.

    Demand for bills is rising again because investors including foreign central banks are snapping up the shortest- term U.S. securities as the Federal Reserve buys Treasuries to drive down borrowing costs in a policy of so-called quantitative easing. China, the largest U.S. creditor, with $744 billion of debt, has questioned the practice and shifted purchases to bills from longer-maturity securities.

    “There’s a group of investors out there who are looking at what the Fed is doing and the policy action they’ve taken and the asset purchases, and saying ultimately this is inflationary,” said Stuart Spodek, co-head of U.S. bonds in New York at BlackRock Inc., which manages $483 billion in debt. “You’re going to invest in very short-term bills because you absolutely need not just the quality but also the absolute liquidity.”

    China bought $5.6 billion in bills and sold $964 million in U.S. notes and bonds in February, according to Treasury data released April 15. It was first time since November that China purchased more bills than longer-maturity debt.

    Super Sovereign

    Leaders of the second largest U.S. trading partner started voicing concern about their investments as Fed and Treasury officials pledged $12.8 trillion, the equivalent of 90 percent of last year’s gross domestic product, to pull the economy out of the worst recession in a generation.

    People’s Bank of China Governor Zhou Xiaochuan called for the establishment of a “super-sovereign reserve currency” last month after Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao said he’s “worried” a weaker U.S. dollar may hurt China’s investments. Inflation and a depreciating dollar would erode the value of U.S. holdings owned by international investors.

    At the same time, China added to its holdings. While Treasury depends on China to fund the deficit, exports account for about 40 percent of gross domestic product for the world’s most populous nation. China’s exports to the U.S. jumped 40 percent in March after slumping for five consecutive months.

    ‘Symbiotic Relationship’

    Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner refrained from labeling China as a currency manipulator last week, backtracking from an assertion he made during his confirmation hearings in January. In its first semiannual report on foreign-exchange policies since Geithner became secretary, the Treasury said April 16 that while China’s yuan remains “undervalued,” no country “met the standards” for illegal currency manipulation during the period of the report, from July 2008 through December 2008.

    “China and the U.S. have a symbiotic relationship,” said Win Thin, a senior currency strategist in New York at Brown Brothers Harriman & Co. “We need each other.”

    Treasuries lost 2.6 percent this year, according to Merrill Lynch & Co.’s U.S. Treasury Master Index, as the government increased bond sales to finance a federal budget deficit that President Barack Obama’s administration says may expand to $1.75 trillion.

    Below Zero

    The yield on the benchmark 10-year note rose three basis points last week, or 0.03 percentage point, to 2.95 percent, according to BGCantor Market Data. The 2.75 percent security due in 2019 fell 7/32, or $2.19 per $1,000 face amount, to 98 9/32. The yield fell to 2.88 percent at 8:18 a.m. in New York.

    Three-month bill rates dropped five basis points last week to 0.13 percent. The rate was little changed today. Bills maturing in three months and less have returned 0.07 percent this year, Merrill index data shows.

    In December, bill rates fell below zero as investors sought the protection of the safest government debt in the wake of the September collapse of New York-based Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., the biggest bankruptcy in history.

    Treasury sold $27 billion of three-month bills on Dec. 8 at a discount rate of 0.005 percent, the lowest on record. The U.S. also sold $30 billion of four-week bills at zero percent for the first time. U.S. government debt of all maturities returned 14 percent last year, the best since 1995.

    Foreign Holdings

    Foreign investors including central banks own $3.16 trillion, or 50 percent, of the $6.27 trillion in marketable Treasuries outstanding, according to Treasury data. The U.S. needs to raise $3.25 trillion this fiscal year, as the government finances bank bailouts, stimulates the economy and services deficits, according to Goldman Sachs Group Inc.

    “The Fed made the dramatic announcement in March that it’s going to monetize some of that deficit,” said Richard Clarida, a global strategic adviser at Pacific Investment Management Co. and Columbia University economist, raising concern that the purchases may lead to faster inflation. “The difference in migrating to bills versus bonds is their exposure to interest rate movements. You’re taking less interest rate risk.”

    Better Tone

    The Labor Department said April 15 that the consumer price index fell 0.4 percent in March from a year before, the first annual decline since 1955. The drop provides Bernanke with more time to narrow the difference between what consumers pay to borrow and the costs for banks, following the Fed’s decision in December to lower its target rate for overnight loans between banks to a range of zero to 0.25 percent.

    Consumers and companies are starting to benefit. Goldman Sachs and JPMorgan Chase & Co. reported higher-than-estimated profits last week, in part because of higher revenue from fixed- income markets. Both raised capital last week without government backing.

    “The credit markets are achieving a better tone and getting stronger,” Dallas Fed President Richard Fisher said at a briefing in Shanghai on April 18. “Volatility has been dampened. It will take some time to correct the weakness we’re experiencing.”

    Home mortgage rates have fallen to record lows, and borrowing costs for car loans have declined more than five percentage points since the Fed said March 18 that it would buy $300 billion of Treasuries to keep borrowing costs down, and raise its commitment to purchase mortgages to $1.25 billion.

    The difference between the average 30-year U.S. mortgage rate and 10-year Treasury yields narrowed to 1.92 percent on April 17 from 3.07 percent on Dec. 19, the highest level since 1986, according to Bloomberg data. The gap averaged 1.75 percentage points in the decade before the credit crisis began.

    “The bigger story is investors climbing out of the bunker and starting to take risk again as some of the recent data suggests the U.S. economy” will begin to recover, said Colin Lundgren, who manages $40 billion as head of institutional fixed income for RiverSource Institutional Advisors in Minneapolis.

    To contact the reporter on this story: Daniel Kruger in New York at dkkruger1@bloomberg.net.
    Last Updated: April 20, 2009 08:24 EDT

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    Quote Originally Posted by xinhui View Post
    I think at this point, no one would argue that the sino-us econ relationship is not important.
    Indeed.

    "In 2008, China-US bilateral trade totaled 333.74 billion USD, an increase of 10.5 percent from 2007, the lowest growth rate in the seven years that passed since China's entry into the WTO. The data are included in a report issued by the General Administration of Customs of the PRC on February 5. The reduction in the share of Chinese products in the US market is worthy of attention.

    The General Administration of Customs of the PRC points out that there are two main reasons for the recent downturn in China-US bilateral trade. First, the financial crisis has caused a drastic shrinkage in US consumer demand. Second, the cumulative effect of the appreciation of the Renminbi was felt intensely, directly weakening the competitive price advantages of Chinese products, especially for most of the traditional labor intensive products that do not carry much bargaining power among consumers, generally hurting exports to the US market."


    Full story here http://english.people.com.cn/90001/9...4/6587568.html

    IMO in the future the US & China should have the world's largest bilateral trade relationship by volume, even taking into account the economic crisis & the fall in exports. Presently it's the US & Canada who hold that distinction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nebula82 View Post
    IMO in the future the US & China should have the world's largest bilateral trade relationship by volume, even taking into account the economic crisis & the fall in exports. Presently it's the US & Canada who hold that distinction.
    Ship volume will have a pretty tough time replacing truck volume.
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    This WSJ article argues for strengthening of China-US trade relations, not showing that trade relations are being strengthened.

    Strengthen U.S.-China Trade Ties

    27 Apr [WSJ] Economic links have always been an important basis for the China-U.S. relationship, and the growth in trade between the two countries has been robust since the establishment of normal diplomatic relations. Today, China and the U.S. are each other's second-largest trading partner; the value of the two-way trade in goods exceeds $300 billion.

    U.S. businesses have benefited greatly. In the past five years, American exports to China have doubled. The U.S. trade surplus with China in services has grown 36% every year, and the overall value of U.S. export services to China exceeded $16 billion last year. U.S. businesses have invested more than $60 billion in 57,000 projects in China. In 2007, American-funded companies in China enjoyed a 17% increase of profit, while domestically the profit of U.S. businesses dropped by 3% on average.

    But the commercial ties between our two nations are affected by the global financial crisis. Chinese statistics show bilateral trade dropped 6.8%, and U.S. investment in China slumped 19.4%, on a year-on-year basis in the fourth quarter of last year and the first quarter of this year.

    History tells us that the more serious a crisis becomes, the more committed we must be to openness and cooperation. Regrettably, however, trade measures by the U.S. against China are on the rise. Recently, American industries have petitioned the U.S. government for antidumping investigations, and for investigations under the World Trade Organization's "special safeguard provision," which could restrict imports of Chinese products. This will seriously test China-U.S. economic and trade relations. ....
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    Sino-US relations is forward,cooperative,ambivalent,the good perspective needs studious for two.

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    what??
    There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."¯- Isaac Asimov

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    Only Geithner can go to China!




    US Treasury chief Geithner to visit China June 1-2

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    WASHINGTON (AFP) — US Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner will make his first official visit to China for talks June 1-2 as the two nations step up a high-level economic dialogue, his office said Tuesday.

    Geithner will travel to Beijing and meet senior Chinese officials and discuss "a range of issues of importance to both countries," according to a Treasury statement.

    These include "strengthening US-China economic ties to promote stable, balanced and sustained economic growth in the two nations," the statement said.

    The visit will be Geithner's first to China since taking office on January 26.

    The mission continues the high-level discussions on economic cooperation begun under the administration of president George W. Bush.

    Before taking office, Geithner created a stir when he said during his confirmation hearings that China is "manipulating" its currency to gain an advantage in trade.

    He later toned down those remarks as US officials pledged to work closely with China to combat the global economic crisis.

    Last month, a Treasury report said that China had not manipulated its currency to snare a competitive advantage but it remained undervalued.

    President Barack Obama last month sought to broaden the US relationship with China with the launch of a new dialogue.

    Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao agreed to "strengthen ties at all levels," and indicated that US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Geithner would meet once a year for talks with senior Chinese counterparts Dai Bingguo and Wang Qishan.

    He pledged that the dialogue would not sweep sensitive matters under the carpet, saying the United States would take up concerns about human rights and China's rapid growth in military spending.

    The Obama team has accused the Bush administration of focusing exclusively on the economy with China. The prior administration had launched a regular strategic economic dialogue in 2006 led by then-treasury secretary Henry Paulson.

    Among the economic issues that have caused friction is China's currency -- which some US lawmakers say is kept too low, boosting Beijing's advantage in trade and creating big commercial imbalances.

    The latest report on US trade showed that the deficit with China, the second-largest US partner, jumped to 15.6 billion dollars in March from 14.2 billion in the prior month.

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    Obama Taps GOP's Huntsman for China Envoy Post

    By Michael D. Shear and Chris Cillizza
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    Saturday, May 16, 2009 11:35 AM

    President Obama today chose Utah Gov. Jon M. Huntsman Jr. (R) as his choice for ambassador to China, tapping a moderate Republican governor to be his envoy to the world's largest country.

    In a brief ceremony in the White House Diplomatic Room, Obama introduced Huntsman saying the importance of the posting reflects the fact that "China will have a crucial role in confronting all the major challenges" of the world,. "I believe there is much to be gained from a closer working relationship with China."

    The announcement was made with Huntsman's large family, including wife Mary Kaye and parents, gathered in the room. He has seven children, including two adopted from China and India.

    "What a beautiful family," Obama said as he walked in and saw Huntsman's family.

    Huntsman, who was national co-chair of John McCain's presidential campaign, said he "never expected" to be receiving an appointment from the Democratic victor in the race. But when the president asks for service, he said, "that to me is the end of the conversation."

    Huntsman, who speaks fluent Chinese, said first in Mandarin, then English, a Chinese saying: "Together we work. Together we progress."

    Huntsman, 48, was mentioned this spring as a potential Republican contender for the White House in 2012, and Obama's former campaign manager recently suggested that he is a rising force in the GOP.

    He was elected in November to a second term as Utah's governor, drawing 70 percent of the vote. He served in the George W. Bush administration as deputy U.S. trade representative from 2001 to 2004 and, for President George H.W. Bush, was ambassador to Singapore. He is an expert on China, and he speaks Mandarin Chinese fluently.

    White House officials described Huntsman as having respect for China's tradition and called him an "unstinting advoate" for America's interestin Asia. They praised his record of service and said he will be able to be frank with the Chinese when the two countries disagree.

    The news almost certainly forecloses the possibility that Huntsman will be a candidate for national office in 2012.

    Huntsman, who has deep experience in the far east, was clearly positioning himself for a national bid -- casting himself as a common sense conservative on issues like the environment and health care.

    He had also begun to build a national consulting team that included John Weaver, a former senior strategist to Arizona Sen. John McCain.

    As governor, Huntsman has built an impressive record of economic recovery and growth. He has pushed for an overhaul of the state's health-care system, and he has lobbied for his party to do more on the environment. He has also promoted in Utah, a state where Republicans dominate, the power of bipartisanship.

    "Most Americans are fed up with the idea that partisanship has stood in the way of progress," Huntsman said in an interview late last year.

    David Plouffe, who managed Obama's presidential campaign, told U.S. News & World Report this month that Huntsman was "the one person in that party who might be a potential presidential candidate."

    In an interview with Washingtonpost.com's "Fix" last December, Huntsman urged bipartisan cooperation -- an early indicator, perhaps, of his willingness to sacrifice his governorship for a spot in a Democratic Administration.

    "People work with people," said Huntsman. "Most Americans are fed up with the idea that partisanship has stood in the way of progress."

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    astralis,

    Do you have something to do with this? Man, I wish I can be there and watch the flame that burns red-hot.






    Published: May 22, 2009 at 9:32 AM





    BEIJING, May 22 (UPI) -- U.S. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, one of China's sharpest critics, will lead a U.S. delegation on a visit to Beijing next week, officials said.

    Pelosi's office didn't respond to a request for a comment, but an official from the U.S. Embassy in Beijing confirmed that Pelosi will visit China May 24-31, The Wall Street Journal reported Friday.

    Diplomats in Beijing said Pelosi and the congressional delegation would also travel to Shanghai.

    The visit will have an environmental and energy focus, with Pelosi scheduled to speak at an environmental energy forum, the Journal said. Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., the Foreign Relations Committee chairman, is also scheduled to speak.

    Pelosi has been a vocal critic of China. In 1991, she unfurled a banner on Tiananmen Square, where pro-democracy protests in 1989 led to a government crackdown in which hundreds of people died. She opposed normalized trade relations with China throughout the 1990s. Last year, the California Democrat received several condemnations from Beijing for suggesting that President George W. Bush boycott the opening ceremonies for the Summer Olympics and for visiting the Dalai Lama, Tibet's exiled spiritual leader, in India.

    "It's not great timing, but it's positive that she comes to China," Yan Xuetong, head of the Institute of International Studies at Tsinghua University, told the Journal. "Her image of China is still of the time of the Tiananmen events; this might help her change her view."

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    I just hope she doesn't end up tripping like Margaret Thatcher. I know about history repeating itself, but that would be too much.

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    she handled herself well infront of Hua, but Hua was no Deng.
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    xinhui,

    Do you have something to do with this? Man, I wish I can be there and watch the flame that burns red-hot.
    i can neither confirm nor deny ) having said that, no, i won't be in beijing for that codel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xinhui View Post
    astralis,

    Do you have something to do with this? Man, I wish I can be there and watch the flame that burns red-hot.
    LOL. I'd like to hear what she says after the trip, she's one of the few politicians out there who is direct and to the point.

    She'll be coming to Hong Kong too.

    Nebula82.

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    Pelosi might have been anti-China, but as the tide has turned, she may change her mind.

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