Thread: Chinese Servicemen’s Views of USAF Airmen and Education

Ehhhh, Andy, English board here, not CDF.

LOL,

sorry, I just found it to have a better coverage then some main stream US outlets.

Originally Posted by xinhui

Each PLA major unit has a Physiologist (Tom Cruise will not be too pleased) and they have to pass a physiological test before being accepted into armed force. not sure that answer the chaplains question.

Do you mean "psychologist?" I think that's the profession Tom's religion is not too crazy about.

My bad and thx.

PLA Hires Marriage Counselors for Soldiers
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China's People's Liberation Army (PLA) is to hire 60 marriage counselors for the soldiers and their spouses in the Beijing Military Area Command.



They are the first group of marriage counselors in the "Save the Marriage" project, initiated by the All-China Women's Federation in an attempt to curb the rising number of marital and family problems.



"Soldiers' families are a special group. It's common for the couples to live in different places, and there are many marital, family and children's education problems in their marriages," said a federation expert.



Besides psychology and professional training, marriage and family counselors must have a good grasp of sociology, physiology, marriage law, marriage culture and parenthood education, he said. They must know how to communicate effectively with their clients and give good advice.



Experts were invited to give a 20-day training course for the counselors on sociology, the history of marriage and family, marriage law, education, ethnicity and psychology.



The federation said it would train more marriage counselors for the armed forces and civilian service.



According to government figures, China's divorce rate has risen each year since 2002. A total of 1.78 million couples split in 2005, up 7.2 percent on the previous year.



No statistics are available on marriage and divorce in the armed forces.



(Xinhua News Agency January 27,

Originally Posted by Bluesman

The fact that the Chinese observers were impressed with the pride and sense of purpose that seemed to be coming from INSIDE those airmen, instead of some attempt to instill it through indoctrination, is a HUGE factor that we simply must understand.

MSgt,

I wonder if you read their read right. While obviously the USAF airmen lacked the indoctrination the PLAAF airmen has, the very fact that they've understood that indoctrination to be at the highschool level should mean that they should emphasize the young pioneers more.

In other words, should they not start the indoctrination theories in high school because that's what they understood the American system to be?

I am not questioning the quality of our airmen but rather your read on their read.

xinhui, OOE:

A very interesting article - ROTC WITH CHINESE CHARACTERISTICS - so it brings some questions:

1. Is the military training no longer compulsory for all male university students in China?

2. What changes are being made in leadership training and/or personnel management to match the changes taking place in the technocratic realm?

3. Are the changes brought about by increased affluence also reflected in the enlisted ranks? To what extent in each of the services? How has leadership coped with it?

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

... the very fact that they've understood that indoctrination to be at the highschool level should mean that they should emphasize the young pioneers more.

OOE,

Are those young pioneer programs even effective? Do the Chinese sudents take those programs seriously? Do they follow-up on what they learn there?

Similar programs elesewhere - in times of relative peace and stability like China is now experiencing - usually tend to degenerate mostly into an exercise in resume boosting. Is it run any differently in today's China?

Originally Posted by Cactus

1. Is the military training no longer compulsory for all male university students in China?

It is and it isn't. You're scheduled but no one is going to crack the whip if you skip class and most do.

Originally Posted by Cactus

2. What changes are being made in leadership training and/or personnel management to match the changes taking place in the technocratic realm?

I'm assuming that you mean the Officer Corps. The army is the army and institutional change for an army this size is slow. While a degree is now a requirement, most of the training and management knowledge is still attained through the regiment.

Originally Posted by Cactus

3. Are the changes brought about by increased affluence also reflected in the enlisted ranks? To what extent in each of the services? How has leadership coped with it?

On this issue, very little has changed. Though now technically, you can go through your military career as a non-commissioned member, most don't. There is not enough prestige in being a Senior NCM and in China, old dinosaurs don't take orders from young geeks.

Originally Posted by Cactus

Are those young pioneer programs even effective? Do the Chinese sudents take those programs seriously? Do they follow-up on what they learn there?

As effective as the Boy Scouts.

What's the demographics of China's officer corps?

Urban, educated, parents are party members or what?

PS: Is it acceptable for protocol to post so soon after I made my intro thread and post?

Are you kidding?

New, you've checked into the members intro thread, ask questions, don't immediately post a "What's the best Army in the world..." thread, and are polite.

Bar's open, stud.

Originally Posted by Skywatcher

What's the demographics of China's officer corps?

Urban, educated, parents are party members or what?

PS: Is it acceptable for protocol to post so soon after I made my intro thread and post?

The best work (and the only one unclassified) so far is the Professionalization of the Senior Chinese Officer Corps Trends and Implications by James C. Mulvenon published by RAND. However, there is no follow up on this milestone study and it is somewhere dated (published in 1997)

indoctrination, never too young to start

speaking of which, here is today's CCTV report on how the army finding ways to deal with single-child enlist. Will you send you only son to the army? Needless to say, they are having issues.