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    Well take your pick... uranium, natural gas, oil, coal, solar, wind farms, hydro... we got it all ..especially large reserves of raw materials.

    Even if it didn't have its own stockpile.
    We have been doing that since the 1950's. I would dare say that the nuclear warheads on aus soil would contain aussie uranium anywayz. LOL

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    It's friggin Australia, despite what fox news has told you solar power does work.
    Trooth is from the UK, I doubt he gets Fox news. BTW, when did Fox news say solar power doesn't work?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar
    It doesn't work at night or when there are clouds, and it works less well during winter, even in Australia. But I agree that solar energy is well worth pursuing. But nuclear power is also good, and much cleaner than fossil fuels.
    It can also cause
    MASSIVE genetic mutation
    Cancer
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    EXTREME environmental pollution.*
    Better to rely on Soul Power than Nuke Power.

    This is why many Australians ("Aborigines") and Others
    are smart enough to avoid involvement with Uranium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZFBoxcar
    It doesn't work at night or when there are clouds, and it works less well during winter, even in Australia. But I agree that solar energy is well worth pursuing. But nuclear power is also good, and much cleaner than fossil fuels.
    It can also cause
    MASSIVE genetic mutation
    Cancer
    and
    EXTREME environmental pollution.*
    Better to rely on Soul Power than Nuke Power.

    *This is why many Australians ("Aborigines") and Others
    are smart enough to avoid involvement with Uranium.
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    um no...they just don't know how to make any sort of power plant.

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    um no...they just don't know how to make any sort of power plant.
    Look out ... drunk man talking.

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    I'm not talking about Australia, I'm talking about the Aboriginal Australians. Saying they don't build nuclear power plants because they use "soul power" is ridiculous. Besides, who knows which power plants their electricity comes from? Or were you calling Intelligences drunk?

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    Soul power..
    wtf???
    Looks like I directed the drunk comment at the wrong person.

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    .... solar power is not nearly efficient enough. Yes, it can power some outback towns, but a city the size of sydney or melbourne needs far more power than solar can realistically supply. Nuclear power is clean, by far the cleanest source we have.

    I see nothing wring with exporting uranium to china, especially if they use it for power plants, and consequently burn less coal.

    Intelligences... how about a bit of proof about the 'massive genetic mutations'?

    Yes, nuclear energy can be harmful. But I could be burnt to death in a coal plant, or electrocuted by solar or wind power. The point is, nuclear energy is completely safe, as long as nothing goes wrong. And the chances of something going wrong? Even the biggest disater, Chernobyl, killed like, 500 people. Considering thaat was communist russia, an australian death toll would be like, 1 or 2.
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    Australia, Canada, Germany, Spain, Italy, and a couple others are more than capable of producing nuclear weapons. They've made the choice they they don't want to have them.
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    Even environmentalists are starting to come aorund to the fact that Nuclear might be the only viable alternative to fossil fuels. The reaosn is that anything else has to have a backup.

    Solar power doesn't work at night, as has been pointed out. Wind turbines don't work when it isn't windy. Hydroelectric only works if you can have massive dams and there are environmental implications of flooding valleys as most countries have already experienced.

    The costs of the backups often mean that "free" enrergy is as expensive as the polluting kind. Oh nd of course the backups are the polluting kind.

    The problem with Nuclear energy is that if my coal power station "goes bad" then i get a fire or some such that affects a reasonably localised area.

    If my nuclear plant goes bad i could have a direct connection between my power plant and the earth's molten core in an alarmingky short period of time. Most people wouldn't welcome a volcano in Kent spewing molten rock over the golf courses. Obviously i would be safe, i live on a hill . Even if it doesn't melt down i have potentially a radioctive cloud that irradiates massive areas of land. Chernobyl radiotion affected sheep in Wales. for example. The areas around Chernobyl are still lethal and will be for decades. We don't know how many people are going to die because of that one incident.

    And that is when it goes wrong. When it goes right you have very dangerous
    waste material. Yes 95% of a nuclear power plant's waste can be reprocessed. but there aren't many places that can do it. So to get the waste from the nuclear plant to the reprocessing plant requires long and potentially risky overland / oversea journeys.

    And then you have to deal with the 5%.

    Personally i believe the future currently lies with Nuclear Fission (isn't it about time for another Cold Fusion story to hit the press?) the problem is that the commies are not the only ones who are politically driven. The US had 3 mile island, and that revealed the whole political brinkmanship played between the contractors and the fact that the designs of the plants where, essentially, flawed but allowed to go ahead through politics.

    And this is the problem. For such important and costly and time intensive projects, politics comes into play. Nimbyism fuels the politics as well, which doesn't help.

    At some point we are going to have to address the fact that that the fossil fuels will run out, and on the way to running out they are contributing to clmate change. Then we have to be sensible and say that "i love being able to use my nice powerful computer, and my nice broadband internet connection, at night and to do this i have to understand i might need to live within 100 miles of a nuclear power station. And that i should get off the backs of the people trying to build the thing so that they can build safe versions and address the nuclear waste processing issues without moaning about the fact that it costs so much and is going to take so long." Because otherwise you will have another Chernobyl or 3 mile island.

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