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    Communists?

    Again finding excuses?

    Foreigner investors are not afraid of Communists (see how they are chums with China). They are AFRAID of ISLAMISTs and Mahathir has been the force who has started the process of turning Malaysia in to an Islamic country! That is God's Truth!

    Singapore was a part of Malaysia and so how come they started to develop before Malaysia? In other words, you are saying that Malaysia was plumb lazy and only when they saw Singapore's success, Mahathir woke up!

    Singapore was a part of Malaysia before 9 August 1965. Singapore has been setup as trading centre for British, and was a hub for British between West and East to support British empire economy. The business activities were already flourish. While Malaya (West Malaysia now) which was dense with jungle, was made by the British just as a place for rubber planting. The rubber from Malaya transported to Singapore before exported to the West. After separation, Malaysia was still combating the communist guerrilla. They are members of MPAJA (Malaysian People Anti Japanese Army) that have been supported by the Kuomintang (communist party of China Republic).They camped in jungle and continuously attacked the police station and killed the villagers. Malaya also was a battle field of conflict involving British, Communist guerilla and Japanese army. In 2nd December 1989, finally a peace treaty is signed between the communists party, Thailand and Malaysia. The long, hard war the British had preferred to term an Emergency was over. You cannot compare the MPAJA in 40's to 80's with present China Republic.

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    Captain,

    appreciate your constructive comments. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hailer View Post
    Singapore was a part of Malaysia before 9 August 1965. Singapore has been setup as trading centre for British, and was a hub for British between West and East to support British empire economy. The business activities were already flourish. While Malaya (West Malaysia now) which was dense with jungle, was made by the British just as a place for rubber planting. The rubber from Malaya transported to Singapore before exported to the West. After separation, Malaysia was still combating the communist guerrilla. They are members of MPAJA (Malaysian People Anti Japanese Army) that have been supported by the Kuomintang (communist party of China Republic).They camped in jungle and continuously attacked the police station and killed the villagers. Malaya also was a battle field of conflict involving British, Communist guerilla and Japanese army. In 2nd December 1989, finally a peace treaty is signed between the communists party, Thailand and Malaysia. The long, hard war the British had preferred to term an Emergency was over. You cannot compare the MPAJA in 40's to 80's with present China Republic.
    This history I am aware of.

    What is the connection with what I posted?


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    “Foreigner investors are not afraid of Communists (see how they are chums with China)”
    - To invest, foreigner need stability, is not a question of afraid or not of Communist. The communist party during British era (MALAYA) has created instability before and after My-Sg separation. While China is now major trading partner to Malaysia. The comparison is not suitable enough.

    “Singapore was a part of Malaysia and so how come they started to develop before Malaysia?
    The story answers your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hailer View Post
    “Foreigner investors are not afraid of Communists (see how they are chums with China)”
    - To invest, foreigner need stability, is not a question of afraid or not of Communist. The communist party during British era (MALAYA) has created instability before and after My-Sg separation. While China is now major trading partner to Malaysia. The comparison is not suitable enough.

    “Singapore was a part of Malaysia and so how come they started to develop before Malaysia?
    The story answers your question.
    How long are you going to drag the Communist insurrection to cover up the lethargy and easy life loving to get going? It was during the British days. What have you done after that in comparison to Singapore?

    Look lets be straight. Malaysia is a fine country, but people are easy going.That is why Mahathir brought in the law to give preference to the Bhumiputras and yet they are nowhere in the lead!


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    You hit it on the spot, Ray. Their bumiputera racist policies are what's holding Malaysia back. This hailer guy talks about Singapore's provocative actions. This is not exactly the truth hiding deep in his heart, and the heart of many other of his kind. Singapore's very existence is a provocation to these people. Malaysia had split up with Singapore, expecting Singapore to fail miserably under LKY and come grovelling back for the chance to reintegrate with Malaysia. That Singapore dared to establish its independence on the basis of racial equality, and actually having the audacity to prosper under its values of meritocracy, galls its 2 neighbours to no end. Singapore is the mirror that reflects the truth - that their sultan has no clothes. Even Singapore's Malays are far more successful under meritocracy than their counterparts in Malaysia. Their racist policies has made for a malay population surviving on the bumeputera-policy drip, and a disillusioned chinese and indian population. Singapore is a beneficiary of that, with much of its talent originating from Malaysia. Believe me, I am one of the greatest supporters of Malaysia's bumiputera policies. Malaysia boleh!

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    All the same, I enjoyed visiting Malaysia since the people were so laid back and easy going that it was a real relaxing holiday with no tension.

    It was amusing to see the girls taking off their tudung in restaurants and shoving it in their purse and then having a ball.

    The Mosque sounding the azaan so melodiously and most unobtrusively unlike India where the same on the loudspeaker comes out like a ear shattering high decibel shrill wail and it continues forever (or so it is felt since it jars the mind so much that it appears an eternity!)

    I had such an excellent intellectual interaction with my son in law's Uncle (who had converted to Islam since he married a Moslem lady and is now more Moslem than Moslems) as also another Uncle's ( brother of the Moslem Uncle) wife who is a Chinese!! I had a good spectrum of Malaysian society. The Uncles of my son in law were born and brought up in Malaysia and their family had lived there for ages.

    That Mahathir could not Islamise Malaysia as he desired into a radical state is because of the Malay psyche (take it easy and look busy) and because of the Chinese who control the economy!

    And the Palace of the Horses Hotel was fabulous!

    I love Malaysia.
    A Great country.

    Malaysia truly Asia!
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    Kuomintang (communist party of China Republic).
    Hey dickk head you are contradicting your self.

    As for the rest of your rant, carry on with keeping your dickk head buried like an ostrich. Singapore also went through konfrantasi and the insurgency but konfrantasi ended when Sukarno was kicked out and PRC decided to reorient its foreign policy. Look at Singapore now, always loved the way LKY showed the finger to you guys. It is even a wonder that Chinese continue to live in malaysia inspite of your racist policies. Usually countries have affirmative action to benefit the minorities but in your country, you have affirmative action to benefit the majority and inspite of that the majority are inable to lift themselves out of the morass. Foking imbeciles.......
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    Great. Potential Umno-putera on board.

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    Ok guys you got me. Is this the way you chose to brainwash me?.Is it is, then there is no room for me to express my opinion. You just have satisfied your self. But let me add my last remark.
    The policy looks racist, but both Indian and Chinese actually benefit from it. It is the power sharing between major 3 races. Every parties or races take care of their own interest. The bumiputra is not only malay (100% muslim), but also others such as orang asli, kadazan, iban, bajau, melanau and many more. Among bumiputra there are also Christian and animism. Is this really racist policy? And I know some of you would even have equalize this policy with the apartheid policy. This policy, or the social contract between races that have been agreed about 50 years ago was designed to stabilize the country, and to narrow down the economy gap between races. And I know you guys hope for the wind of change, therefore other foreigner can take participation together to win strategic government contract. I personally is now ready to compete with Chinese and Indian without NEP. There are more and more bumiputra are ready for this healthy competation. But there are still others that have yet ready to go for it. Believe me it will change gradually but not so drastically change because it may creates disaster the country. There is nothing I can say much. And as usually Malaysia is always been in top list of most country under criticism. Ok farewell guys.

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    Malaysia is always been in top list of most country under criticism.
    Apparently all countries feel the same that their country is the one which has to face all the criticisms.

    The issue is not to tell you that you are wrong but if you wish to hoodwink us on what is your country's policy, then I am afraid you have to come up with genuine facts to prove that you are not hoodwinking us.

    Today, the world is a village and we move from country to country for business, pleasure or employment. We have all the five senses operating and we react as per the signals received by the five senses!

    You see the issue from your viewpoint and we see it as the way it affected us. To you as a Bhumiputra, the policy is beneficial, but to those who are Malaysians but are out of this privileged group, it is disastrous and unequal.

    You have mentioned who are Bhumiputras. Could you amplify as to who all they are? And could you give the reason as to why other Malaysians have been left out from this Bhumiputra circle.

    As bhumiputra they are given preferential treatment over Chinese, Indians and all other Malaysians (with the exception of certain indigenous tribal peoples).
    Malays are defined by a number of characteristics, including adherence to the Islamic faith.

    Now, why should the others be deprived and why should it be only for those of the Islamic faith?


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    Quote Originally Posted by 667medic View Post
    Hey dickk head you are contradicting your self.

    As for the rest of your rant, carry on with keeping your dickk head buried like an ostrich. Singapore also went through konfrantasi and the insurgency but konfrantasi ended when Sukarno was kicked out and PRC decided to reorient its foreign policy. Look at Singapore now, always loved the way LKY showed the finger to you guys. It is even a wonder that Chinese continue to live in malaysia inspite of your racist policies. Usually countries have affirmative action to benefit the minorities but in your country, you have affirmative action to benefit the majority and inspite of that the majority are inable to lift themselves out of the morass. Foking imbeciles.......
    Calm down please and desist from personal attacks.

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    Sorry Pari

    And as usually Malaysia is always been in top list of most country under criticism. Ok farewell guys.
    That's the big wetdream of Mahatir and his Bhumiputras, you guys think too highly of your selves. Even here in Singapore you guys don't command more respect than your worth.......
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    being a malaysian and yet being side-lined as 2nd class citizen, i found it so amusing for hailer to talk so much without substance. typical bumiputra..

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    A 2 year old thread. If the gunny sees this before the mods shut it down we will be knee deep in dead kittens & emaciated ladies. In the name of all that is holy Mods, end it. End it now!!!
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