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The Light Horse Charge at Beersheba
"Then Abraham reproved Abimelech because of a well of water which Abimelech's servants had seized... And he said, You will take these seven ewe lambs from my hand, that they may be my witness that I have dug this well. Therefore he called that place Beersheba, because the two of them swore an oath there."
Genesis chapter 21 verses 25 -31 Quote:
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The Light Horsemen
Yes guys there was a movie made about this.
It was the last of three war themed movies made by the South Australian Film Corporation. The First movie was called, Breaker Morant and was based on a true story that happened during the Boer war. The events that happenned soured relations between Britain and Australia for a very long time and when the movie came out it opened up some very nasty wounds again. The movie was filmed in 1980 and starred Englishman, Edward Woodward as Harry (Breaker) Morant. The filming took place about 50 miles from where I live, in a small town called Burra. They used an historic Jail called the Redruth Jail which is now a tourist museum for much of the filming. The second movie was called, Gallipoli and is based on the story of the Anzacs and the ill fated and bloody landing at Gallipoli in Turkey during WW 1. This film was made in 1981. The last Movie made was, The Light Horsemen. The charge and much of the desert scenes were filmed at Hawker, about 60 miles north of me. The film extras who did the riding were locals from farms and stations plus high country hosemen brought in from the Victorian Alps. This film was made in 1987. As Pari's article indicates, the Light Horse was never meant to do a cavalry charge but instead, advance, dismount and fire. The Australian officers took it upon themselves to do what they did because the horses were not going to survive another day without water and they needed to capture the water well intact. As the Light Horse did not carry Sabres, the charge was done with Bayonets which were quite long in those days. Apparently that was the last mass Cavalry charge the world would ever see. At the time these movies were made they achieved almost cult status in Australia but I don't beleive they had much exposure elsewhere. I have an interest in them because my maternal Grandfather was at Gallipoli and lived to tell the tale. My paternal Grandfather was a Lighthorseman but was sent to France where cavalry was not required so they were redesignated as "drivers" ie, the guys who drove the horse teams that dragged the field guns through the mud and slush. A couple of things have happened in the last 15 years or so that make me angry and sad. The "walers" that are mentioned in Pari's article are a type of horse that the Light Horse rode. In Australia our wild horses are called Brumbys and the Walers are a distinct sub section of that group. Very few of them came home from the Middle East because the government would not allow it. The few that still remain have in recent years been targeted by the zealots who will not tolerate introduced species wandering around in the wild. As a consequence of this, they have been hunted and "back shot" from helicopters. The people that do this don't care about any heritage value of these superb horses. The other thing that is sad and annoying is the fact that our kids are not taught about these events anymore because it is cosidered to be glorifying war and the current crop of teachers are equally ignorant of our heritage. I impress upon you to get hold of copies of the three movies and watch them in the order that they were made. They will give you a very good understanding of the Anzac soldiers personalities and the esteem in which they were once and should forever be held. The Light Horsemen is best watched in wide screen format. If you watch the charge and the hairs on the back of your necks don't stand up, you will need to check your pulses. Cheers. |
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Right on Captain, all 3 were good movies except for the lack of action in the first 2 (definitely in Gallipoli but its been awhile since I last saw Breaker Morant so I could be wrong)
YouTube - The Lighthorsemen - Attack on Beersheba A clip of the famous charge from The Lighthorsemen. |
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Unique old cannon
A very rare peice of historic artillery has been saved.
I and my freinds used to occaisionally play on this when we were kids. The drill hall where my Grandfather and his 9th Lighthorse mates practised their drills is about 100 yards away and is now used as a Scout hall. I am not sure if this was captured at Beersheba but in any case I am pleased the community has seen fit to make sure this peice of history is not lost. The following link is a nice story about the gun and the people who have restored it. http://catford.com.au/images/prod_images/CANNON.pdf Cheers. |
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[quote=captain;427410]A very rare peice of historic artillery has been saved.
I and my freinds used to occaisionally play on this when we were kids. The drill hall where my Grandfather and his 9th Lighthorse mates practised their drills is about 100 yards away and is now used as a Scout hall. I am not sure if this was captured at Beersheba but in any case I am pleased the community has seen fit to make sure this peice of history is not lost. The following link is a nice story about the gun and the people who have restored it. http://catford.com.au/images/prod_images/CANNON.pdf Cheers. Most interesting I'm astonished that only 4 of these were made (and that 2 survive in Australia.) Couldn't have been a money-spinner for Krupps!
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ANZACS were always one of bravest enemy in WW1 as we learned but we can not forget some other factors like;
Mr. Alexander Aaronsohn, Sherif Huseyins revolt(Muslim vs Muslim), "Netzach Israel Loshakere" in short "NILI", Simi Simon and others...
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Possibly not.
For a 5.9 inch (150mm) howitzer it is quite small and I would doubt it would weigh any more than 1.5 ton. It would probably dance around a fair bit when fired and with such a short barrel, it's bark would be as bad as it's bite which would not have impressed the users much. I wonder what happened to the breech block. Cheers |
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The Light Horsemen
One of my top 3 favorite movies of all time. I wish I could find it here in teh US on DVD!! What a tremendous story. I first heard of this campaign when in the Infantry Officers Advanced Course in 1985. Had been oblivious to it prior to that.
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It is available in the U.S from Amazon but the dvd is apparently a Chinese copy and of very poor quality. Amazon also have the movie on VHS tape which would most likey be the original and therefore good quality. The asking price for the tape is very little and tapes can be burnt to disc very easily. If you cant do that I am sure one of your friends would be enough of a tech wizz to help you out. Breaker Morant is also available from Amazon and on dvd. This movie, if you haven't seen it, deals with military law and un-uniformed guerilla combatants. Quite topical for today and an exelent movie, IMO. A read of the comments on Amazon for both movies is worthwhile. Hints,,I would be reluctant to buy off Ebay,, too many fakes and make sure the movies are in suitable format for your player. Best of luck. Cheers. |
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"The Light Horsemen" was perhaps the best and most accurate of the 3 movies made dedicated to the charge on Beersheba.
The first movie was "One Thousand Horses" (I think but can't find it in Google). It was well done but being in black and white no longer appreciated by the younger color-coded generation. I first saw it on an Emerson tube TV many years ago so my memory of the title may be off. But I still recall the scenes of that very impressive cavalry charge. A cavalry charge like no other cavalry charge before or since. Then there was "The Light Horsemen" starring Anthony Andrews as the British Intelligence officer following up his astounding TV series "Danger UXB". The third film rendition was a 2 hourTV episode of "Young Indiana Jones". I watched it the other night on satellite TV. The TV version fairly well followed the earlier movie and I'm pretty sure some of the distance shots were taken from the movie. Otherwise they used a whole new cast. Sets were either new but I suspect many of the scenes were out-takes from the movie. Still an exciting rendition commemorating perhaps the greatest Cavalry charge of all time.
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An excellent example of the remaining essence of Cavalry operations in modern warfare. The Cavalry Charge remains intact in the strategic mounted maneuver elements of what has developed, in western parlance, to include "assault", as well as "blitzkrieg", "shock" & "awe".
God forbid that the last Cavalry Charge be carried out by infantrymen.... It has been my opinion that the "charge" is still being sounded the world over today including winged, tracked & wheeled vehicles as much as the family of EFVs (equestrian fighting vehicle).
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Not like an old (very old) western movie I saw where the hero was manning a Maxim Machinegun from the back of a wagon. He laid a stream of bullets just in front of the big gang of outlaws chasing him. When asked later why he didn't shoot the outlaws themselves he said, "I didn't want to hit the horses". But that's Hollyweird for you. |
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