Ironside

i was wondering who you thought would win in a one on one fight to the death between a ninja and a 16th century knight

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Low-tech

ninja by armbar

gunnut

Ninja by a mile.

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Dogukan

Ninjas's are well disciplined and get Martial Arts all their lives. Knights are usually after glory and richness but ninjas fight with honor.

gilgamesh

Ninjas. Afterall, they were the original stealth bombers. Their costumes are of different colors(mostly blue), contrary to popularly being potrayed as black .

Canmoore

You seem to forget that back in the 1500's people were a hell of alot stronger and could take alot more punishment.

Sure ninja may be fast and have sharp swords, but Knights rode on horses, which are even faster, knight chases down ninja on horse back, then uses his sword to chop ninjas head in two.

Low-tech

ninjas arent really anything seperate from samurai. all a ninja is, is a samurai who is either a spy,assassin or both. its not as if europe lacked assassins and spies as well.

its not a martial art like kung fu or something, no secret "hand of death" moves. no smoke bombs and walking on water. its just a guy trained in poisons,close quarter combat with small, easy to conceal, weapons,espionage and stealth. a good knowledge in tracking and wilderness survival is good too.

there is nothing the ninja did that seperates them from the rest of the world's method of espionage and assassination for thier time.


and arguably they would be at a severe disadvantage face to face with a guy who is wearing a metal suit, a big shield and a big sword or axe. unless they can sneak up on the guy

Canmoore

not to mention that ninjas if i am correct, operated alone..more stealthy that way.

Knights operated in huge armies...so one ninja pisses off a knight, who then calls in his buddies

Low-tech

for a potentail target of assassination i dont think any so called ninja would be against cooperating with other ninja types or whatever. buildings and neighborhoods have to be staked out, information such as building plans and escape routes have to be gathered,people operating as diversions of attention for potentail security etc. so the whole "go it alone" thing could be in question for the whole scope of what the "mission" entails.

granted a ninja, like any special forces,commando type soldier would be trained to be fearsome alone. but i can see a cooperation of small numbers being more effecient than just one person.

"ninja" could cover the definition of scouts,snipers and sabateurs<spelling?>as well, i believe

howardb

Gotto admit this is a topic winner. Only so much one guy can do against an army. Sorry guys case closed.

Rifleman

Assuming there was some strange situation that brought the two together in straight up one on one combat?

Situation dependent, according to combat mindset (not weapons or basic style) and who's having a better day. Ninja A beats Knight B, but Knight B beats Ninja C, but Ninja C can beat Knight D.....

And the same for the SAS against the SEALS, or Vasili Zaitzev against Carlos Hathcock, or a Kenpo blackbelt against a boxer.

Nuff said?

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Feydakin

Ninja would wait for the army of knights to sleep then get them remember they are a bunch of assassins who kill by indirect methods and i think the last time they fought a pitch battle against samurai they lost way back ???? when old Oda Nobunaga was the Barbarian -slayer- of- the- infidels chief if you want a straight fight knights easy but don't go to sleep you could end up with a columbian neck tie

Semper Fi

"Only a Ninja can stop a Ninja." Cho Osaki - Revenge of the Ninja

korppi76

If we take one on one where both start example on field then knight will win.
But if ninja can do what they are trained to do (poison, kill while other sleep etc) then ninja can possibly win.

Knights are trained from the childhood to to fight and armor gives them advantage. Ninjas are trained to assassin so poison, stab to back, arrow neck while other is resting etc are their best options.

Hand to hand fight knight might be better,but as said earlier depends knight.

Semper Fi

A Ninja would rape a Knight in a one on one fight. First of all Ninja's are better swordmen, and their Katana's would easily go though a Knight's armor.

And a Knight is no match for a someone who is highly trained in the art of Jujutsu.