So Its All bush's Fault HUH? - Page 4

raider · 08-31-2005, 20:10 PM

hes not sayin bush is responsible for the hurricane, hes sayin hes not doin ne thing to help the ppl in the cities, is that what u meant man

leib10 · 08-31-2005, 20:10 PM

You idiot. He just sent another bunch of National Guard troops to help out.

raider · 08-31-2005, 20:12 PM

but they have no way of gettin to the ppl trapped on houses, what r they gonna do, swim to them, the water is 10 feet high u fool

raider · 08-31-2005, 20:12 PM

and they dont have fuel to run boats all day

DalerMehndi · 08-31-2005, 20:12 PM

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Originally Posted by raider

thats right man, and he is staying in iraq for no reason, he got what he wanted= sadaam hussein, and now hes jus killin soldiers and innocent civilians, even republicans have recently said we should come home, thats showin that bush is losing lotz of support, and gas is goin to get way above 4 dollars, and this has a lot to do with bush and his support for the oil manufacturers, bush should jus bring our troops home and save many lives, that would help his cause a lot, but still wouldnt get most of the american ppl that hate him on his side, and as for sayin hes a bad president, thats in the constitution that u can have freedom of speech, so if i wanna say bush is a loser and is hurting this country more than any president in the history of america i can, and i feel that way, inflation is the worst its been in years, he is jus hurtin america, so next time u wanna go and say nobady can have a opinion- whoever it is that started this topic- think again, because america is the land of freedom, we can say what we want, thats whats great about america

Exactly, our troops arent dieing and loosing limbs for any real cause...they are being forced to do it for halliburtons stock.

raider · 08-31-2005, 20:13 PM

YES!!! finally a sane person in this place

raider · 08-31-2005, 20:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DalerMehndi

Exactly, our troops arent dieing and loosing limbs for any real cause...they are being forced to do it for halliburtons stock.

and we are spending billions of dollars on this war, estimated to be over a trillion before this mess is through

mtnbiker · 08-31-2005, 20:17 PM

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Berside, Iraq did not have WMD, nor did it have Alqaeda connection.

Roto, it did have an al Qaeda connection. Please read the last few posts by myself and Shek. They clearly had a connection. Here's more.

The truth is out there. Feel free to keep ignoring it because it doesn't fit what you want the version of events to be.

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Feb, 2001
Al-Watan al-Arabi (Paris) reports that two Iraqis were arrested in Germany, charged with spying for Baghdad. The arrests came in the wake of reports that Iraq was reorganizing the external branches of its intelligence service and that it had drawn up a plan to strike at US interests around the world through a network of alliances with extremist fundamentalist parties.
The most serious report contained information that Iraq and Osama bin Ladin were working together. German authorities were surprised by the arrest of the two Iraqi agents and the discovery of Iraqi intelligence activities in several German cities. German authorities, acting on CIA recommendations, had been focused on monitoring the activities of Islamic groups linked to bin Ladin. They discovered the two Iraqi agents by chance and uncovered what they considered to be serious indications of cooperation between Iraq and bin Ladin. The matter was considered so important that a special team of CIA and FBI agents was sent to Germany to interrogate the two Iraqi spies.

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"The vice president is saying, I think, that there were connections between Al Qaeda and the Saddam Hussein government. We don't disagree with that. What we have said is what the governor (Commission Chairman Thomas Kean) just said, we don't have any evidence of a cooperative, or a corroborative, relationship between Saddam Hussein's government and these Al Qaeda operatives with regard to the attacks on the United States."
-- Lee Hamilton, the former Democratic congressman who is the 9/11 commission's vice chairman

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"Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq."
-- From a Clinton Administration Justice Department indictment on Nov. 4, 1998

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* German intelligence analysts concluded in 2002 that radical Islamist terrorists such as al Qaeda worked with Iraqi intelligence services through contacts in the German neo-Nazi community.

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Ahmed Hikmat Shakir and Abdul Rahman Yasin--who were connected to the first World Trade Center bombing and the 9/11 hijackers fled to Iraq after the WTC bombing. When we got into Baghdad, documents showe that he was put on the payroll and given housing by Saddam Hussein after the '93 attack-in other words, provided safe harbor and sanctuary."
-- CIA briefing

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"Credible reporting states that al Qaeda leaders sought contacts in Iraq who could help them acquire WMD capabilities. The reporting also stated that Iraq has provided training to al Qaeda members in the areas of poisons and gases and making conventional bombs."
-- CIA Director George Tenet in a letter to the Senate Intelligence Committee on October 7, 2002

dalem · 08-31-2005, 20:19 PM

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Originally Posted by raider

hahaha, man have u been listenin to bushes dad or what, do u watch the news channels, all that i said is true, oviously u never watch the news ever

Did you read it? Or did your parents keep you at the dinner table for an extra half hour because you wouldn't finish your stringbeans?

-dale

raider · 08-31-2005, 20:19 PM

ok iraq was not connected with alqueda, and their are no WMD's in iraq, BUSH THOUGHT THERE WAS SO HE WENT TO WAR WITHOUT THE UN'S APPROVAL

dalem · 08-31-2005, 20:20 PM

I think these 3 new guys are just the same kid.

-dale

DalerMehndi · 08-31-2005, 20:20 PM

WOW, 8000 troops! Even India mobilized more troops duringthe tsunami. Infact, it send thousands of personnel from its airforce, navy and army with ships, aircraft, and ground vehicles even though it has almsot 1 million troops mobilized on its borders. America, the richest and most powerful nation on earth is barely able to come up with the 8000 troops and it has no useful equipment for them. It hink tehy have 3 navy warships and 1 navy medical ship on their way, but it will take atleast 5 days for htem to get there and the nubmer of aircraft they can use is limited.

dale, i didnt get that from the radio. Infact, the only person i ever listen too on the radio is savage(jsut so that i can laugh at a ll the bs he says). The golfing thing may or may not be true, but he was definetly in Arizona promoting his war.

Heres where i got hte golf thing from:

http://www.azcentral.com/community/w...ush0831Z1.html

dalem · 08-31-2005, 20:20 PM

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Originally Posted by raider

ok iraq was not connected with alqueda, and their are no WMD's in iraq, BUSH THOUGHT THERE WAS SO HE WENT TO WAR WITHOUT THE UN'S APPROVAL

Hush, child.

-dale

**Officer of Engineers** · 08-31-2005, 20:21 PM

Do you two freaking idiots know what you're even talking about?

1st of all, I'm a Canadian Forces Officers who had served on 5 tours of peacekeeping missions, translated - combat missions. I have not served on one tour where I have not received fire and returned fire,

2nd, I wish we had a HAL doing out work. As it was, we had to rely on locals to do alot of our supplies and alot of work. That turned them either into two things - the local boss (whom only we can check) or the local target (whom only we can protect).

Do you pukes even know what we (and I mean the West) are asking of the Iraqis?

raider · 08-31-2005, 20:21 PM

agreed, america is the powerfullest country and that is pitiful when india sends more troops to help its civilians than america does

08-31-2005, 20:10 PM	#47 (permalink)
leib10 HKHolic *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 02-17-05 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 3,250 Country:	You idiot. He just sent another bunch of National Guard troops to help out. __________________ "The right man in the wrong place can make all the difference in the world. So wake up, Mr. Freeman. Wake up and smell the ashes." G-Man

08-31-2005, 20:21 PM	#59 (permalink)
Officer of Engineers *Military Professional* Moderator Scotch taster Join Date: 08-06-03 Posts: 16,649 Country:	Do you two freaking idiots know what you're even talking about? 1st of all, I'm a Canadian Forces Officers who had served on 5 tours of peacekeeping missions, translated - combat missions. I have not served on one tour where I have not received fire and returned fire, 2nd, I wish we had a HAL doing out work. As it was, we had to rely on locals to do alot of our supplies and alot of work. That turned them either into two things - the local boss (whom only we can check) or the local target (whom only we can protect). Do you pukes even know what we (and I mean the West) are asking of the Iraqis? __________________ Chimo

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08-31-2005, 20:10 PM	#46 (permalink)
raider Banished Join Date: 08-30-05 Posts: 25	hes not sayin bush is responsible for the hurricane, hes sayin hes not doin ne thing to help the ppl in the cities, is that what u meant man

08-31-2005, 20:12 PM	#48 (permalink)
raider Banished Join Date: 08-30-05 Posts: 25	but they have no way of gettin to the ppl trapped on houses, what r they gonna do, swim to them, the water is 10 feet high u fool

08-31-2005, 20:12 PM	#49 (permalink)
raider Banished Join Date: 08-30-05 Posts: 25	and they dont have fuel to run boats all day

08-31-2005, 20:13 PM	#51 (permalink)
raider Banished Join Date: 08-30-05 Posts: 25	YES!!! finally a sane person in this place

08-31-2005, 20:19 PM	#55 (permalink)
raider Banished Join Date: 08-30-05 Posts: 25	ok iraq was not connected with alqueda, and their are no WMD's in iraq, BUSH THOUGHT THERE WAS SO HE WENT TO WAR WITHOUT THE UN'S APPROVAL

08-31-2005, 20:20 PM	#56 (permalink)
dalem Lord High Hullabalooster *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 11-23-04 Location: Columbia Heights, MN Posts: 8,552 Country:	I think these 3 new guys are just the same kid. -dale

08-31-2005, 20:20 PM	#57 (permalink)
DalerMehndi Banished Join Date: 08-23-05 Posts: 90	WOW, 8000 troops! Even India mobilized more troops duringthe tsunami. Infact, it send thousands of personnel from its airforce, navy and army with ships, aircraft, and ground vehicles even though it has almsot 1 million troops mobilized on its borders. America, the richest and most powerful nation on earth is barely able to come up with the 8000 troops and it has no useful equipment for them. It hink tehy have 3 navy warships and 1 navy medical ship on their way, but it will take atleast 5 days for htem to get there and the nubmer of aircraft they can use is limited. dale, i didnt get that from the radio. Infact, the only person i ever listen too on the radio is savage(jsut so that i can laugh at a ll the bs he says). The golfing thing may or may not be true, but he was definetly in Arizona promoting his war. Heres where i got hte golf thing from: http://www.azcentral.com/community/w...ush0831Z1.html

08-31-2005, 20:21 PM	#60 (permalink)
raider Banished Join Date: 08-30-05 Posts: 25	agreed, america is the powerfullest country and that is pitiful when india sends more troops to help its civilians than america does

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