China hit by earthquake - Page 4

Zeng · 05-13-2008, 22:11 PM

Here is some information about Wenchuan County, the epicenter

It is in the Ngawa Tibetan and Qiang Autonomous Prefecture, Sichuan, China.

Wenchuan County - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Population of Wenchuan County is a mix of Han, Qiang and Tibetan.

Han - 46%, Qiang - 34%, Tibetan - 18.6%

Qiang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The largest Ethnic group in the Ngawa Tibetan and Qiang Autonomous Prefecture is Tibetan.

Ngawa Tibetan and Qiang Autonomous Prefecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Tibetan - 53.72%, Han - 24.69%, Qiang - 18.28%, Hui - 3.11%, Manju - 0.04%, Miao - 0.03%, Yi - 0.02%, Mongols - 0.02%, Tujia - 0.02%, Bai - 0.01%, Zhuang - 0.01% and others - 0.03%

It was one of the regions that we had Tibetan revolt recently.

I hope that people In different ethnic groups can work together and help each other to overcome the current difficulty.

Zeng · 05-13-2008, 22:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

Post the link and I'll see what's the problem.

Thanks. I want to post the picture of the Wenchuan County in the link below.

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I saved picture on to the harddrive of my computer and used the "insert image" button. It did not work.

goodamanda · 05-13-2008, 22:47 PM

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Originally Posted by HKDan

I tend to agree with you on this. Most of the articles that have appeared predicting doom and gloom for the Chinese government as a result of this tragedy are nonsense. I can only vouch for the people I know here, but everyone I have spoken with knows that there was nothing that the government could have done to prevent this and all are satisfied with its response to the quake. Really, if you compare how China has reacted to this quake with the response of the government of Myanmar to their recent cyclone or even how the Bush administration dealt with Hurricane Katrina you see that this Chinese government is doing pretty well all things considered. If anything this is another chance for the government to bolster its position.

I didn't understand why the govement deploy so much CCP for this disaster yesterday, but today I think maybe the gov is right.
I watched the TV in the morning, and got the bad news, most aid workers can't reach to the epicentral area, and the news said that there are 5000 homeless in WenChuan county (epicentral area), and it is reported that the county should have about 100000 people. So where are the 95000 peoples? I can't image.

LetsTalk · 05-13-2008, 22:53 PM

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Originally Posted by goodamanda

most aid workers can't reach to the epicentral area

How about using some military helicopters? Is the real problem the inability to move specialized equipment in there?

My prayer and thoughts we be with the victims of the earthquake, typhoon, and tornadoes.

goodamanda · 05-13-2008, 23:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LetsTalk

How about using some military helicopters? Is the real problem the inability to move specialized equipment in there?

My prayer and thoughts we be with the victims of the earthquake, typhoon, and tornadoes.

Yes, as I know they try to use helicopters since the first day, but it is rain all the time, so they canceled the flight plan in that day. My father complained that CCP is not a qualified army.

And it is reported that the specialized equipment is working now, but I don't know more information about those equipment. I envy the equipments in the U.S.

Zeng · 05-13-2008, 23:29 PM

Prayer for the victims of the earthquake, typhoon, tornado and terrorist attack.

Here are the Chinese weblinks with pictures. My heart is bleeding. Some of the pictures are very bloody, please be prepared.

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**Officer of Engineers** · 05-14-2008, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goodamanda

Yes, as I know they try to use helicopters since the first day, but it is rain all the time, so they canceled the flight plan in that day. My father complained that CCP is not a qualified army.

And it is reported that the specialized equipment is working now, but I don't know more information about those equipment. I envy the equipments in the U.S.

I saw the pictures of the roads. Nobody could have done better, not even the US. You've got 20,000 men there overnight, over half marched in by foot.

It is the best anyone can do, even the US. The sad fact, however, is that it is not enough. It is never enough.

China's rivers will be flooded with tears.

kams · 05-14-2008, 11:17 AM

I am horrified to read about the extent of devastation! Ironically I was in Ahmedabad, India on a business trip when first news of Earthquake in China started coming in. It was in Ahmedabad I survived a 7.9 magnitude earthquake in 2001, and I can still hear the screams.
My prayers are with you. I pray that all WAB members are safe.

nebula82 · 05-14-2008, 13:14 PM

The local news here has said, about the military relief operation, that it's the biggest airlift operation in Chinese history.

Can anyone provide more info or elaborate? Xinhui? OoE?

Thx,
Nebula82.

Southie · 05-14-2008, 14:53 PM

I read an article today about a young girl, whose legs were trapped beneath the rubble and the only way they can save her is to amputate her legs right there at the site.

They described her as being calm and stable. So horribly sad!

Girl will lose her legs to gain freedom - China earthquake - MSNBC.com

dalem · 05-14-2008, 17:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Officer of Engineers

I saw the pictures of the roads. Nobody could have done better, not even the US. You've got 20,000 men there overnight, over half marched in by foot.

It is the best anyone can do, even the US. The sad fact, however, is that it is not enough. It is never enough.

China's rivers will be flooded with tears.

Speaking of floods, I heard on the radio today that they're worried about a dam that is cracked. Talk about insult to injury, sheesh.

-dale

wkllaw · 05-14-2008, 17:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dalem

Speaking of floods, I heard on the radio today that they're worried about a dam that is cracked. Talk about insult to injury, sheesh.

-dale

I believe that there're quite a few dams, not just one, damaged by the earthquake. The authorities have gone to make sure the dams don't break and fix the cracks.

Zeng · 05-14-2008, 20:27 PM

15 ABC jumped into remote areas on May 14th with satellite phone.

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The blood donated by Beijing citizens has reached the city’s storage limit and the disaster area has got enough blood storage. The Chinese national healthy department asked people only to register for blood donation in case they are needed but not donate blood right now to prevent from wasting.

I am really proud of them.

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A Chinese insurance company “中国人寿” established a fund to support all the orphans from this earthquake until they become 18 years old.

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Money donation has been poured in for disaster relief from around China, Taiwan, HongKong, Macau and around the world.

Zeng · 05-14-2008, 20:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wkllaw

I believe that there're quite a few dams, not just one, damaged by the earthquake. The authorities have gone to make sure the dams don't break and fix the cracks.

The army hopes to clear the road to Wenchuan County by Today.
China telecom is trying to restore the optical cable to Wenchuan County also by Today. A cell phone base station has been air dropped to Wenchuan County to restore the cell phone network.

Then, they can start the evacuation of the survivors there.

It is not the time to point finger yet. But the contractors and the construction companies of those school buildings as well as the building quality monitoring authorities need to give an answer about the construction quality.

The pictures of before and after earthquake around the epicenter:

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wkllaw · 05-14-2008, 21:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeng

The army hopes to clear the road to Wenchuan County by Today.
China telecom is trying to restore the optical cable to Wenchuan County also by Today. China mobile may restore cell phone network in some areas of the Wenchuan County very soon.

Then, they can start the evacuation of the survivors there.

That is certainly nice to hear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeng

It is not the time to point finger yet. But the contractors and the construction companies of those school buildings as well as the building quality monitoring authorities need to give an answer about their construction quality.

I agree, we shouldn't be pointing fingers at times of crisis, we can find out who might be at fault later when everyone is safe first.

The suspicous amount of public buildings that fell shouldn't be ignored, but bringing this up now isn't a good idea. However, I do hope that certain failures be brought up eventually and not forgotten. I hope this disaster for all its misery at least serves as a catalyst for safer buildings even if just a little.

05-13-2008, 22:11 PM	#46 (permalink)
Zeng Contributor Join Date: 01-16-07 Posts: 608 Country:	Here is some information about Wenchuan County, the epicenter It is in the Ngawa Tibetan and Qiang Autonomous Prefecture, Sichuan, China. Wenchuan County - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The Population of Wenchuan County is a mix of Han, Qiang and Tibetan. Han - 46%, Qiang - 34%, Tibetan - 18.6% Qiang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The largest Ethnic group in the Ngawa Tibetan and Qiang Autonomous Prefecture is Tibetan. Ngawa Tibetan and Qiang Autonomous Prefecture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Tibetan - 53.72%, Han - 24.69%, Qiang - 18.28%, Hui - 3.11%, Manju - 0.04%, Miao - 0.03%, Yi - 0.02%, Mongols - 0.02%, Tujia - 0.02%, Bai - 0.01%, Zhuang - 0.01% and others - 0.03% It was one of the regions that we had Tibetan revolt recently. I hope that people In different ethnic groups can work together and help each other to overcome the current difficulty. __________________ I am here for exchanging opinions. Last edited by Zeng : 05-14-2008 at 19:48 PM.

05-13-2008, 23:29 PM	#51 (permalink)
Zeng Contributor Join Date: 01-16-07 Posts: 608 Country:	Prayer for the victims of the earthquake, typhoon, tornado and terrorist attack. Here are the Chinese weblinks with pictures. My heart is bleeding. Some of the pictures are very bloody, please be prepared. ÏÖ³¡ÕÕÆ¬ÖÕÓÚ³öÀ´ÁË£ºÕðºóµÄ±±´¨ÏØ³Ç£¨Í¼×é£© - ±¶¿ÉÇ×£¨www.backchina.com£© ¡¾ÍøÓÑÊµÅÄ¡¿µØÕðºó£¬ËÄ´¨Ê²Úú´¥Ä¿¾ªÐÄµÄÏÖ³¡ÕÕÆ¬_ÐÂÎ ÅÌùÍ¼ÂÛÌ³_ÍøÒ×ÐÂÎÅÂÛÌ³ ÊµÅÄ£ºÊØÍûÏàÖú£¡ÕðÇøÔÖÃñµÄÉú»î°ÙÌ¬£¨Í¼×é£© - ±¶¿ÉÇ×£¨www.backchina.com£© Last edited by Zeng : 05-13-2008 at 23:52 PM.

05-14-2008, 14:53 PM	#55 (permalink)
Southie USAF Retired TSgt *Military Professional* Join Date: 04-09-07 Location: Tampa FL Posts: 1,682 Country:	I read an article today about a young girl, whose legs were trapped beneath the rubble and the only way they can save her is to amputate her legs right there at the site. They described her as being calm and stable. So horribly sad! Girl will lose her legs to gain freedom - China earthquake - MSNBC.com __________________ "If you love someone, set them free. If they come back they're yours; if they don't they never were." Richard Bach

05-14-2008, 20:27 PM	#58 (permalink)
Zeng Contributor Join Date: 01-16-07 Posts: 608 Country:	15 ABC jumped into remote areas on May 14th with satellite phone. ¿Ë·þÀ§ÄÑ ²»Î·ÎþÉü:¿Õ¾üÊ×´ÎÏòÔÖÇøÉ¡½µ¿Õ½µ±ø(Í¼) - ÖÐ¹ú512ãë´¨µØÕð¼ÍÊµ - °ÄÖÞÂÛÌ³,°Ä´óÀûÑÇÂÛÌ³,°ÄÖÞÁôÑ§,°Ä´óÀûÑÇÁôÑ§,°ÄÖÞÒÆ Ãñ,°Ä´óÀûÑÇÒÆÃñ,°ÄÖÞÉú»î,°Ä´óÀûÑÇÉú»î,°ÄÖÞ×â·¿,°ÄÖ Þ¹¤×÷ °ÄÖÞ°Ä±¦ÍøÂç(AOBO) The blood donated by Beijing citizens has reached the city’s storage limit and the disaster area has got enough blood storage. The Chinese national healthy department asked people only to register for blood donation in case they are needed but not donate blood right now to prevent from wasting. I am really proud of them. ±±¾©ÒÑÎªÔÖÇøÏ×ÑªÓâ°ÙÍòºÁÉý Ñª¿â±¥ºÍ A Chinese insurance company “中国人寿” established a fund to support all the orphans from this earthquake until they become 18 years old. ÖÐ¹úÈËÊÙÐû²¼½«ÊÕÑøËùÓÐ¡°ãë´¨µØÕð¹Â¶ù¡± Money donation has been poured in for disaster relief from around China, Taiwan, HongKong, Macau and around the world. Last edited by Zeng : 05-14-2008 at 21:57 PM.

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05-14-2008, 11:17 AM	#53 (permalink)
kams *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 07-22-06 Location: Piscatawy, NJ Posts: 1,437 Country:	I am horrified to read about the extent of devastation! Ironically I was in Ahmedabad, India on a business trip when first news of Earthquake in China started coming in. It was in Ahmedabad I survived a 7.9 magnitude earthquake in 2001, and I can still hear the screams. My prayers are with you. I pray that all WAB members are safe.

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nebula82 Regular Join Date: 03-12-08 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 97 Country:	The local news here has said, about the military relief operation, that it's the biggest airlift operation in Chinese history. Can anyone provide more info or elaborate? Xinhui? OoE? Thx, Nebula82.

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