JAD_333

Believe what? Hard addicts wear a worse stigma now than they would under a controlled drug distribution program. Your reasoning seems to be that you'd rather break the law privately than obey it publicly.


No difference. You characterize tracking purchases for the purpose of limiting them as a huge invasion of privacy. If banks didn't track your account balance they wouldn't know when to stop giving you money. Perscriptions for medicines are also tracked and some perscriptions cannot be refilled. These are systems designed to perform administrative tasks, not pry into all aspects of your life.

But let's put it another. No one would have to buy drugs. Only if they want to buy them do they have to get an special ID. Of course, the system could simply rely on driver licences, but that would be cumbersome because not all states put a mag tape on their driver licenses. You'd have to manually enter the info into a computer.

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Tronic

Its not going to be a very beneficial thing to do as it would defeat the purpose in many regards. A lot of college and university users (and no, I don't mean casual users, just once in a while sort of thing; during partying et all) won't be too happy with such laws tracking them. Main reason, if not anything else, is culture. Most of the partying, drinking or smoking (whatever) is done away from the knowledge of the people's families and mostly it happens on university or college residences. So if there is such a thing as keeping records of people who would go to the store and buy some mj; it would only mean that they would be again looking at others to purchase it from. Hence, defeating the whole purpose of regulating the drug.

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Gun Grape

And another reason it would not work. For the same reason ration cards and signing for booze in the package store way back when in Okinawa, didn't work.

You get the non-drinkers/non black marketing guys to use their cards for you.
Throw them a little cash as a thank you.

At least thats what I was told. I never picked new section members by their (non)drinking habits

dark-alias

exactly,
I was on my way back from korea once and we were only allowed to bring back two bottles of soju each.....well we got all the non-drinkers together and filled there bags too. There would def. be an abuse of the system, just like there is with every social system this country has. I could never ever see hardcore drugs being legalized to the public, but maybe just myabe one day MJ could, it all depends who the people keep putting into office

JAD_333

No question there are downsides to the plan.

We could of course continue on the same path we are on, suffer the economic drain, keep putting offenders in jail, and watch the cartels grow in an ever increasing cycle of violence, and so on. Or, we could end all that and take on the problem of working to keep people from cheating on the new rules. Like gungrape points out underage users will look for adults willing to buy them some stuff, although with a limit to each purchase and a time limit on the next, adults might be reluctant to help anyone else.

There's always a tendency to hold back from doing anything new because of problems we see in it. Humans are ambivelent when it comes to new ideas. They tolerate imperfection in the real world, but demand perfection in ideas. We would not be driving cars today if we had acted on the fear that they might cause deadly accidents.

We have a choice. In the long run, we can enforce one system or the other. Either we use our law enforcement assets to continue the war on drugs or we use them to prevent cheating under a system of legalization. To me it's a no-brainer. Legalization will take far less money and manpower to enforce than the billions we are now throwing at criminalization, and it will be self-sustaining from taxes on drugs.

The first step in controlling the drug problem is to move it out of the shadows of criminalization and into the light of legalization. That won't end the drug problem, insofar as consumers are concerned, but it will do away with all the bloodsuckers associated with it. Once out of the shadows, we can begin educating users and, in time, cut down on drug use.

Parihaka

Damn straight

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jame$thegreat

Don't get me wrong JAD I do believe in legalization and hope it happens but I just don't see how it can be implemented in a way that is completely practical. I think the first step is marijuana legalization, then we can discuss different methods of legalizing all drugs without prying and without rampant addiction and overdose.

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JAD_333

No problem. You might be right; start small.

I still like the NASA approach. We're going to the moon; now let's figure out how we get there. No one is sprung from the womb full grown.

You can dump the word "prying". It has to be voluntary.

Tin Man

WHOOP de-do! The government has realized that kids at University do drink and drugs! The same agents that found that one out went to the same schools!

Kids will be kids. Some grow out of it. Sorry if I haven`t read through the thread but Jeez, get real! My days at Uni` were filled with hazy days of getting drunk, chasing girls and smoking myself to oblivion (only 6 nights out of seven!!).
Then I graduated and sobered up, how the hell I managed to do anything there is still a gargantuan mystery to me!

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jame$thegreat

Perhaps you should, it is an interesting debate, though no one was arguing whether or not college kid do/should use drugs/drink...

JAD_333

I graduated in 1966...no drugs at the time, but kegs and kegs of beer, party, party, party and liberal sex...but the recent San Diego bust is about dealing, not so much about debauchery, as James pointed out. Yeah, it's a mystery how we survived and eventually became "pillars" of society...

Tin Man

Guys, I will indeed read through the topic. Most of the weed dealers at my school were students themselves, God knows where they got it from. Some of the local indigenous low life's I think. It was rife and I went to a very good centre of learning! I stayed away from heavy stuff totally, never been my bag. Many "experimented", a few even got totally wasted and dropped out. I think that would have happened to certain individuals anyway, with or without drugs.

The majority of kids stayed clean and graduated. Alcohol was certainly a big issue, and just as dangerous in my opinion. One girl died from poisoning she drank that much, such a waste.

I graduated in 1991, there was a crazy music scene in the city, this definitely fueled things.
Where there is a need, the dealers find their target....Every time.