At least 22,000 feared dead in Myanmar cyclone

The One · 05-06-2008, 10:07 AM

SOURCE:- NDTV.com: At least 22,000 feared dead in Myanmar cyclone

At least 22,000 feared dead in Myanmar cyclone

Tuesday, May 6, 2008 (Yangon, Myanmar)
At least 22,000 people have died in Myanmar after the devastating Cyclone Nargis struck on May 2. The death toll is still rising. Authorities are trying to reach the islands and villages which are still cut off from the rest of the country.

The cyclone has caused huge devastation in Myanmar. The diplomatically-isolated military junta out of no choice had to ask for international help. The junta made a rare appeal for help to the outside world, who had denied any need of help in the aftermath of the tsunami.

There has been a massive international response for help with two Indian naval ships on their way to Myanmar to provide the necessary relief.

India has already sent two warships from the Andamans, armed with food and medicine.

The UN is organising drinking water, plastic sheeting and food through its only two agencies that operate inside Burma -- the UN Children's fund and its development programme.

''The United Nations will do whatever to provide urgent humanitarian assistance,'' said Ban Ki-Moon, Secretary General, United Nations.

Nature's fury could not have hit the Burmese at a worse time, months after a violent crackdown on pro-democracy protestors and just days before a planned referendum on the constitution.

The United States has released aid but first lady Laura Bush came down heavily on the military regime for its poor response to the disaster.

''It is troubling that many of the Burmese people learned of this impending disaster only when foreign outlets such as Radio Free Asia and Voice of America sounded the alarm,'' said Laura Bush.

''Although they were aware of the threat, Burma's state run media failed to issue a timely warning to citizens in the storms path. The response to the cyclone is just the most recent example of the junta's failure to meet it's peoples' basic needs,'' she added.

The death toll has crossed 13,000, making Nargis the worst storm to hit the Indian Ocean, since the Tsunami of 2004.

Referendum delayed

Myanmar announced on Tuesday that it is delaying a crucial constitutional referendum in areas badly hit by a cyclone that may have killed nearly 15,000 people and left as many as a million homeless. Officials feared the death toll could soar.

State radio said Saturday's vote on a military-backed draft constitution would be delayed until May 24 in 40 of 45 townships in the Yangon area and seven in the Irrawaddy delta, which took the brunt of the weekend storm.

It indicated that the balloting would proceed in other areas as scheduled.

Foreign Minister Nyan Win was quoted by state-run television as saying over 10,000 people had perished in the low-lying delta and a smaller number died in and around Yangon, the country's largest city.

''News and data are still being collected, so there may be many more casualties,'' the minister said.

The One · 05-06-2008, 10:09 AM

SOURCE:- :: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines ::

India sending 2 ships with relief material to Myanmar

New Delhi, May 05: Reaching out to Myanmar in its hour of crisis after a cyclone claimed nearly 4,000 lives in that country, India on Monday said it is despatching two Naval ships with relief and medical supplies and considering airlifting of aid material.

The ships carrying food items, tents, blankets, clothing and medicines will sail to Yangon from Port Blair, External Affairs Ministry spokesman Navtej Sarna told reporters here.

"We are also considering further immediate relief and medical supplies, including by air," he said.

External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee conveyed India`s readiness to provide immediate emergency relief assistance to Myanmar to cope with this calamity.

President Pratibha Patil, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee have sent messages of condolence, expressing their deep distress at the devastation caused by the natural disaster.

The External Affairs Minister, in a message to his Myanmar counterpart, extended his deep sympathy to the victims and the bereaved families.

The death toll in the devastating cyclone `Nargis` that swept through Myanmar has risen to almost 4,000.

Ryan Bailey · 05-06-2008, 13:21 PM

Given the present state of affairs I would certainly support an invasion by a coalition of the willing in the interest of relief for the dying masses of the brutal regime.

We are praying for those affacted by this cataclysm.

snc128 · 05-06-2008, 13:36 PM

may they get back on their feet soon

gunnut · 05-06-2008, 14:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan Bailey

Given the present state of affairs I would certainly support an invasion by a coalition of the willing in the interest of relief for the dying masses of the brutal regime.

Why? There's no oil...

troung · 05-06-2008, 15:10 PM

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Why? There's no oil...

Total ownage not only do they have energy but the left can link them to Halliburton.

Cheney says Haliburton did not support Myanmar regime - October 28, 2000

Quote:

KING:All right, let's get into some issues. As you know, when we get into the last week things always break, and I want to give Dick a chance to respond to that story today in The Wall Street Journal about your former company, Haliburton's, relationship with a brutal junta government in Myanmar, which is formerly Burma, and Haliburton's involvement supporting the regime that treated its people terribly.

D. CHENEY: Well, Larry, we didn't support the regime. We were there because we had competed on a contract to lay some undersea pipeline offshore in Myanmar. It was done through a joint-venture partner. It was fully in compliance with U.S. policy, and our conduct around the world, the Haliburton operation is in more that 120 countries, and you have to operate in some very difficult places and oftentimes in countries that are governed in a manner that's not consistent with our principals here in the United States.

But the world's not made up only of democracies, and everything we did there was totally in compliance with U.S. policy, as the article made clear.

KING: Did you expect this kind of thing to come out, though?

D. CHENEY: Oh, I think so. It wouldn't be a story except for the fact that I'm running for vice president...

Corporate Watch : Halliburton : Corporate Crimes

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Adventures in Burma...
'We don’t do business in Burma,' claims Halliburton spokesperson Wendy Hall. But while the company may have no current direct investments in Burma, it has participated in a number of energy development projects there, including the notorious Yadana and Yetagun pipelines. Prior to the gas pipeline’s construction, the Burmese military forcibly relocated towns along the onshore route. According to the US Department of Labor, 'credible evidence exists that several villages along the route were forcibly relocated or depopulated in the months before the production-sharing agreement was signed.'76 According to an Earth Rights report: 'From 1992, until the present (2000), thousands of villagers in Burma were forced to work in support of these pipelines and related infrastructure. They lost their homes due to forced relocation and were raped, tortured and killed by soldiers hired by companies as security guards for the pipelines.'77 In addition, as the largest foreign investment project in Burma, the pipelines will provide revenue to prop up the regime, perhaps for decades to come.

Shortly before the US presidential election, Dick Cheney admitted on the Larry King Live! show that Halliburton had done contract work in Burma. Cheney defended the project by saying that Halliburton had not broken the US law imposing sanctions on Burma, which forbids new investments in the country. 'You have to operate in some very difficult places and oftentimes in countries that are governed in a manner that’s not consistent with our principles here in the United States,' Cheney told Larry King. 'But the world’s not made up only of democracies.' Halliburton’s engagement in Burma predates Dick Cheney’s tenure as CEO. Halliburton had an office in Rangoon as early as 1990, two years after the military regime took power by voiding the election of the National League for Democracy, the party of Aung San Suu Kyi. In the early 1990’s, Halliburton Energy Services joined with Alfred McAlpine (UK) to provide pre-commissioning services to the Yadana pipeline. In 1997, after Dick Cheney joined Halliburton, the Yadana field developers hired European Marine Services (EMC) to lay the 365-kilometer offshore portion of the Yadana gas pipeline. EMC is a 50-50 joint venture between Halliburton and Saipem of Italy. From July to October 1997, EMC installed the 360-inch diameter line using its pipelaying barges. The route followed by Halliburton and Saipem was chosen by the Burmese government to minimize costs, even though the onshore pipeline path would cut through politically sensitive areas inhabited by ethnic minorities in the Tenasserim region of Burma. Given the Burmese military’s well-documented history of human rights violations and brutality, human rights groups say the western companies knew or should have known that human rights crimes would accompany Burmese troops into the onshore pipeline region. They say there was ample evidence in the public domain that such violations were already occurring when Halliburton chose to lay pipe for the project. As Katie Redford, a lawyer with EarthRights International puts it, 'To be involved in the Yadana pipeline is to knowingly accept brutal violations of human rights as part of doing business.'

gunnut · 05-06-2008, 17:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by troung

Total ownage not only do they have energy but the left can link them to Halliburton.

Cheney says Haliburton did not support Myanmar regime - October 28, 2000

Corporate Watch : Halliburton : Corporate Crimes

Let the invasion begin!

troung · 05-06-2008, 19:04 PM

Quote:

Let the invasion begin!

Jungles, a big army, troops tied down, election year, harder to find on the map, ever try to spell/say "Myanmar", lack of overweight and snake oil selling exiles in Washington, and the jooooos don't hate them...

The One · 05-07-2008, 01:18 AM

It's time to support them not to invade

rat · 05-07-2008, 06:54 AM

Burma death toll 'likely to hit 80,000' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

The death toll might touch 80,000 !!!
Nature still reigns supreme over humans ....
Invasion is only gonna aggravate people's suffering. Calls for invasion of Burma at the moment is pathetic.

Mobbme · 05-07-2008, 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rat

Burma death toll 'likely to hit 80,000' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

The death toll might touch 80,000 !!!
Nature still reigns supreme over humans ....
Invasion is only gonna aggravate people's suffering. Calls for invasion of Burma at the moment is pathetic.

Whoh, thats scary.

R.I.P to those who died, may god bless their souls.

gunnut · 05-07-2008, 13:01 PM

Some people have missed the obvious sarcasm in this thread...

It appears our sarcasm was not without grounds...

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U.N. eyes plan to force Myanmar to accept aid
Relief workers wait for visas from military regime 5 days after disaster

MSNBC News Services
updated 35 minutes ago

YANGON, Myanmar - Aid trickled into military-ruled Myanmar for an estimated one million victims of Cyclone Nargis on Wednesday, with the death toll rising to nearly 23,000 and expected to go higher.

With the inundated Irrawaddy delta virtually cut off and frustration growing among aid agencies and governments to deliver supplies, France suggested invoking a U.N. "responsibility to protect" clause without waiting for military approval.

French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner told reporters on Wednesday the idea was being discussed at the United Nations.

State radio and TV, the main official sources for casualties and damage, reported an updated death toll of 22,980 with 42,119 missing and 1,383 injured in Asia's most devastating cyclone since a 1991 storm in Bangladesh that killed 143,000.

Richard Horsey of the United Nations Office of the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs told Reuters in Bangkok the death toll was expected to rise "dramatically."

'Major logistical challenge'
"With all those dead mostly floating in the water at this point you can get some idea of the conditions facing the teams on the ground. It's a major logistical challenge," Horsey said.

Experts say Myanmar's ruling military must overcome their distrust of the outside world and open up to a full-scale international relief operation. Horsey said the government "recognizes this is an unprecedented emergency" that needed international involvement.

The United Nations recognized in 2005 the concept of "responsibility to protect" civilians when their governments could or would not do it, even if this meant intervention that violated national sovereignty.

European Parliament president Hans-Geert Poettering urged the junta to give access to international aid and to postpone a controversial constitutional referendum on Saturday.

Thailand, China, India and Indonesia were flying in relief supplies and President Bush and Australia's Prime Minister appealed to the Myanmar government to accept their assistance.

Visa delays
Even relief workers of the United Nations, which has a presence in the diplomatically isolated Southeast Asian country, were awaiting visas five days after Cyclone Nargis struck with 120 mph winds.

Internal U.N. documents also revealed Myanmar's government is dragging its feet on giving visas to aid workers who are waiting to help the disaster's survivors.

One of the U.N. documents obtained by The Associated Press says: "Visas are still a problem. It is not clear when it will be sorted out."

The comments were made by U.N. officials during a meeting in Bangkok, Thailand, on Wednesday to coordinate relief efforts.

It said U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon "will contact Myanmar" to arrange a meeting with high-ranking officials on the issue.

Long-term implications?
Political analysts and critics of 46 years of military rule say the cyclone may have long-term implications for the junta, which is even more feared and resented since last September's bloody crackdown on Buddhist monk-led protests.

Water purification tablets, plastic sheeting, basic medical kits, bed nets and food were priorities, U.N. officials said.

Most of the victims were swept away by a wall of water from the cyclone that smashed into coastal towns and villages in the rice-growing delta southwest of the biggest city of Yangon.

"We estimate upwards of 1 million people currently in need of shelter and life-saving assistance," Horsey said, adding 1,930 square miles of the delta remained under water.

Hungry crowds of survivors stormed the few shops that opened in the delta on Wednesday. U.N. officials declared the delta a "major disaster". Witnesses said survivors tried desperately to reach dry ground on boats using blankets as sails.

Military helicopters dropped food and water on Wednesday to survivors in the Irrawaddy delta, where entire villages have been washed away, officials said.

State television on Wednesday quoted Yangon official Gen. Tha Aye as reassuring people that the situation was "returning to normal" in certain areas of Karen state that were hit by the cyclone. He was shown thanking volunteers and visiting the village of Naungbo, outside Yangon, where locals were cutting apart downed trees and brush to clear the roads.

But nearby in Yangon, Myanmar's biggest city, cyclone victims faced new challenges as markets doubled the price of rice, charcoal and bottled water. Electricity was restored to a small portion of the city's 6.5 million residents, but most, who rely on electric wells, had no water.

At a morning market in the Yangon suburb of Kyimyindaing, a fish monger shouted to shoppers: "Come, come the fish is very fresh."

But an angry woman snapped back: "Even if the fish is fresh, I have no water to cook it!"

Prices double
Vendors sold bottled water at 500 kyat — about 50 cents — a liter, more than double the normal price. A standard 73-pound bag of rice had doubled in price to about $40 — an astronomical price in a country where many scrape by on $2 a day.

The U.N.'s World Food Program said late Tuesday it has begun distributing aid in damaged areas of Yangon, where 800 tons of food had arrived.

But some villages have been almost totally eradicated, and vast rice-growing areas were wiped out by Cyclone Nargis, which hit Myanmar early Saturday, the WFP said.

Images from state TV showed large trees and electricity poles sprawled across roads and roofless houses ringed by large sheets of water in the Irrawaddy River delta, which is regarded as Myanmar's rice bowl.

Buddhist monks and Catholic nuns wielding knives and axes joined Yangon residents Tuesday in clearing roads of ancient, fallen trees that were once the city's pride. Soldiers were out on the streets in large numbers for the first time since the cyclone hit.

Britain said it will contribute up to about $9.8 million in initial relief funds and will send an emergency field team to help with international relief efforts.

U.S. offers $3 million
The United States said it was giving $3 million to U.N. agencies to help with their efforts. The European Union will provide $3.1 million.

China is providing $1 million in aid, including relief materials worth $500,000, to help with disaster relief and rehabilitation efforts, a spokesman said.

Indonesia, the country hardest hit by the 2004 Asian tsunami, pledged $1 million in aid on Wednesday.

But the United States and France complained about Myanmar's reluctance to accept direct aid.

President Bush on Tuesday called on Myanmar's military junta to allow the U.S. Navy to help search for the dead and missing. But Myanmar's military, which regularly accuses the United States of trying to subvert the regime, was unlikely to accept U.S. military presence in its territory.

Kouchner said France minimized its aid to about $309,000. He said Myanmar officials are willing to accept aid but insist on distributing it themselves, which he said was "not a good way of doing things."

The cyclone came only a week ahead of a key referendum on a constitution backed by Myanmar's military leaders as an important step forward on their "roadmap to democracy."

State radio also said Saturday's vote would be delayed until May 24 in most of the townships in the Yangon area and seven in the Irrawaddy delta. But it indicated that the balloting would proceed in other areas as scheduled.

The decision drew swift criticism from dissidents and human rights groups who question the credibility of the vote and urged the junta to focus on disaster victims.

Military rule
On Wednesday, about 30 Filipino protesters demanded that Myanmar's junta postpone the constitutional referendum and allow the unrestricted entry of international relief.

Myanmar has been under military rule since 1962. Its government has been widely criticized for suppression of pro-democracy parties such as the one led by Suu Kyi, a Nobel Peace Prize laureate who has been under house arrest for almost 12 of the past 18 years.

At least 31 people were killed and thousands more were detained when the military cracked down on peaceful protests in September led by Buddhist monks and democracy advocates.

U.N. may force Myanmar to accept aid - Asia-Pacific - MSNBC.com

Dreadnought · 05-07-2008, 13:12 PM

Poor bastards, They never knew what hit them nor will they release the real numbers of the dead and so many are claimed as "missing" (presumably dead after a storm like that) and thats not counting what will come from the deseased conditions that will follow.

To me gentlemen, A world class Navy is much more then guns,missles,torpedoes and the like. It takes HEART and and shiploads of it. It is being there where you are needed on the globe. Not perhaps for your own country but for those who are in need no matter their race,origin or religion or even if its affordable.
China will no doubt not allow the USN to help search for survivors. At times like this the preservation/safety of the citizens of your country should well override a countries pride/fear factor.

Its only hopefull the U.N. suceeds in its quest to make them accept the aid for their people.

Dreadnought · 05-07-2008, 15:53 PM

Bad news folks, Some news reports are now stating the death toll up too and perhaps higher then 100,000 people and thats not listing the "missing".

U.S. envoy: Myanmar deaths may top 100,000 - CNN.com

Samudra · 05-07-2008, 16:34 PM

IN and Thai Navy have already reached with token relief supplies.I hear more will follow by air and sea. Don't mind the UN...

This insistence of putting foreign personnel on ground for relief work will not be without dangers for the military junta and hence their reluctance.

05-06-2008, 10:07 AM	#1 (permalink)
The One Regular Join Date: 08-30-07 Location: JABALPUR [M.P.] Posts: 127 Country:	At least 22,000 feared dead in Myanmar cyclone SOURCE:- NDTV.com: At least 22,000 feared dead in Myanmar cyclone At least 22,000 feared dead in Myanmar cyclone Tuesday, May 6, 2008 (Yangon, Myanmar) At least 22,000 people have died in Myanmar after the devastating Cyclone Nargis struck on May 2. The death toll is still rising. Authorities are trying to reach the islands and villages which are still cut off from the rest of the country. The cyclone has caused huge devastation in Myanmar. The diplomatically-isolated military junta out of no choice had to ask for international help. The junta made a rare appeal for help to the outside world, who had denied any need of help in the aftermath of the tsunami. There has been a massive international response for help with two Indian naval ships on their way to Myanmar to provide the necessary relief. India has already sent two warships from the Andamans, armed with food and medicine. The UN is organising drinking water, plastic sheeting and food through its only two agencies that operate inside Burma -- the UN Children's fund and its development programme. ''The United Nations will do whatever to provide urgent humanitarian assistance,'' said Ban Ki-Moon, Secretary General, United Nations. Nature's fury could not have hit the Burmese at a worse time, months after a violent crackdown on pro-democracy protestors and just days before a planned referendum on the constitution. The United States has released aid but first lady Laura Bush came down heavily on the military regime for its poor response to the disaster. ''It is troubling that many of the Burmese people learned of this impending disaster only when foreign outlets such as Radio Free Asia and Voice of America sounded the alarm,'' said Laura Bush. ''Although they were aware of the threat, Burma's state run media failed to issue a timely warning to citizens in the storms path. The response to the cyclone is just the most recent example of the junta's failure to meet it's peoples' basic needs,'' she added. The death toll has crossed 13,000, making Nargis the worst storm to hit the Indian Ocean, since the Tsunami of 2004. Referendum delayed Myanmar announced on Tuesday that it is delaying a crucial constitutional referendum in areas badly hit by a cyclone that may have killed nearly 15,000 people and left as many as a million homeless. Officials feared the death toll could soar. State radio said Saturday's vote on a military-backed draft constitution would be delayed until May 24 in 40 of 45 townships in the Yangon area and seven in the Irrawaddy delta, which took the brunt of the weekend storm. It indicated that the balloting would proceed in other areas as scheduled. Foreign Minister Nyan Win was quoted by state-run television as saying over 10,000 people had perished in the low-lying delta and a smaller number died in and around Yangon, the country's largest city. ''News and data are still being collected, so there may be many more casualties,'' the minister said.

05-06-2008, 13:21 PM	#3 (permalink)
Ryan Bailey *Military Professional* Join Date: 09-25-07 Location: Megalopolis, US Posts: 135 Country:	Given the present state of affairs I would certainly support an invasion by a coalition of the willing in the interest of relief for the dying masses of the brutal regime. We are praying for those affacted by this cataclysm. __________________ "If we will not be governed by God then we will be ruled by tyrants" -William Penn

05-06-2008, 13:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
snc128 Contributor Join Date: 11-03-06 Posts: 525 Country:	may they get back on their feet soon __________________ Peace at home, peace in the world

05-07-2008, 13:12 PM	#13 (permalink)
Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 4,970 Country:	Poor bastards, They never knew what hit them nor will they release the real numbers of the dead and so many are claimed as "missing" (presumably dead after a storm like that) and thats not counting what will come from the deseased conditions that will follow. To me gentlemen, A world class Navy is much more then guns,missles,torpedoes and the like. It takes HEART and and shiploads of it. It is being there where you are needed on the globe. Not perhaps for your own country but for those who are in need no matter their race,origin or religion or even if its affordable. China will no doubt not allow the USN to help search for survivors. At times like this the preservation/safety of the citizens of your country should well override a countries pride/fear factor. Its only hopefull the U.N. suceeds in its quest to make them accept the aid for their people. __________________ Fortitude.....The strength to persist...The courage to endure. Last edited by Dreadnought : 05-07-2008 at 13:22 PM.

05-07-2008, 16:34 PM	#15 (permalink)
Samudra *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 09-01-04 Location: North London Posts: 4,236 Country:	IN and Thai Navy have already reached with token relief supplies.I hear more will follow by air and sea. Don't mind the UN... This insistence of putting foreign personnel on ground for relief work will not be without dangers for the military junta and hence their reluctance. Last edited by Samudra : 05-07-2008 at 16:40 PM.

05-06-2008, 10:09 AM	#2 (permalink)
The One Regular Join Date: 08-30-07 Location: JABALPUR [M.P.] Posts: 127 Country:	SOURCE:- :: Bharat-Rakshak.com - Indian Military News Headlines :: India sending 2 ships with relief material to Myanmar New Delhi, May 05: Reaching out to Myanmar in its hour of crisis after a cyclone claimed nearly 4,000 lives in that country, India on Monday said it is despatching two Naval ships with relief and medical supplies and considering airlifting of aid material. The ships carrying food items, tents, blankets, clothing and medicines will sail to Yangon from Port Blair, External Affairs Ministry spokesman Navtej Sarna told reporters here. "We are also considering further immediate relief and medical supplies, including by air," he said. External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee conveyed India`s readiness to provide immediate emergency relief assistance to Myanmar to cope with this calamity. President Pratibha Patil, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee have sent messages of condolence, expressing their deep distress at the devastation caused by the natural disaster. The External Affairs Minister, in a message to his Myanmar counterpart, extended his deep sympathy to the victims and the bereaved families. The death toll in the devastating cyclone `Nargis` that swept through Myanmar has risen to almost 4,000.

05-07-2008, 01:18 AM	#9 (permalink)
The One Regular Join Date: 08-30-07 Location: JABALPUR [M.P.] Posts: 127 Country:	It's time to support them not to invade

05-07-2008, 06:54 AM	#10 (permalink)
rat Regular Join Date: 04-23-08 Location: Dublin Posts: 66 Country:	Burma death toll 'likely to hit 80,000' - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) The death toll might touch 80,000 !!! Nature still reigns supreme over humans .... Invasion is only gonna aggravate people's suffering. Calls for invasion of Burma at the moment is pathetic.

05-07-2008, 15:53 PM	#14 (permalink)
Dreadnought *Senior Contributor* Join Date: 05-12-05 Posts: 4,970 Country:	Bad news folks, Some news reports are now stating the death toll up too and perhaps higher then 100,000 people and thats not listing the "missing". U.S. envoy: Myanmar deaths may top 100,000 - CNN.com

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