kuku

You are calling those gangsters a government, its a scam they are running, they are more like organized criminals with an army who have taken over a nation.
The sad part is that they are still in control of that nation, making life a misery for all.

What the hell is going on? Why is my nation supporting these thugs.

Natural disaster is something you can not avoid, These tin pot dictatorships and military regimes you can avoid, shame on humanity they are.

Someone should remove them, damn them to hell, pathetic, pathetic, pathetic...

Its just so hopeless.

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Army5339

I think you struck the nail on the head. It is the people's responsibility to replace their government, through force or otherwise, when the government fails them in such magnitude. If someone else does it for them, or allows the government to avoid catastrophic failure, i.e. through aid programs, then nothing changes.

If the people wanted to change their government, I would surely support such an action, but would not elect to do it for them.

Walking Dead

This is a lot worse than we thought. These people are despicable. May they burn in hell if, infact, this is what they are doing.

FOXNews.com - U.N. Suspends Aid Shipments to Myanmar After Government Confiscates Donations - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News

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Tarek Morgen

a bit off topic but after Katerina a German plane with supplies was denied permission to land by the U.S. The most bizzare about this was that it was the fourth flight of the organisation. The goods they transported were M.R.E. kind of food, but also special pumps to deal with grand floodings. But without the parts of the last, cancled flight, the machines could not be used. It took 2 days until it finaly got to the U.S.

A guy I know (who works for the group mentioned above) mentioned also told stories of Indonesia (after the 2005 disaster) putting TAXES on the RELIEF GOODS. They had to pay taxes to the government to be allowed to help them in the first place.

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gunnut

They're doing that so they can

1. take credit for themselves to further their grip on the population
2. help those whom they determine to need the help

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gunnut

But the difference is we already had mountains of supplies waiting to get into New Orleans. All we were waiting for was the local government, which had escaped to another city ahead of the storm , to issue a request for assistance.

Dreadnought

Tarek, I can understand what you are saying. We closed our air space and if one of the "fly boys" (around here can give me a hand) I belive that we had Nato planes patrolling the U.S. at that time and if not mistaken germany did help support.

One difference though, We were attacked by terrorist at the controls of jets. These people were hit with waves and waves of ocean, enough to give the surrounding lands 12' of tidal surge.

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Tarek Morgen

uhm the main supply from that flight were pumping machines which of best of my knowledge were in dire need at the moment. That the US has enough food to supply it (and only getting it to the right places is the issue) was out of question. The main reason (so was I told by him) was that they also sended food, tents & similar stuff was that everything is already completly packed and it would have taken more time to send only the important stuff like the pumps.

The pumps were later used (when the last flight was finally there) that it took them month to get them into shape again.

(All this is mostly based on the stories I got told by one of the involved Person, and it are atleast two years since he told me them, so details might be wrong, but I am pretty sure to remember the most important parts, since I asked several times if he is kidding)

Tarek Morgen

attcked by jets? You are talking about 9/11 right? To best of my knowledge after the Hurricane the air space (well...except in the disaster area I guess) was not closed.

BenRoethig

or 3. Keep the supplies for their army.

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BenRoethig

The gulf coast airspace was closed to clear the area for search and rescue operations. Mistakes in clearance do happen.

Dreadnought

Im hoping these three examples are not what really happens. I really do for their sake.

Perhaps maybe the U.N. sould put tracers in some packages to really see where they are going.

BenRoethig

Unfortunately, if it is going to the military there isn't much that can be done. We're overstretched, the UN is incapable of doing anything but talking, and the rest of the countries would can do something really don't give a damn as long as they're safe in their beds.

Ray

NEW YORK: Some 1.5 million people have been "severely affected" by cyclone Nargis that hit Myanmar last weekend, a UN official has said.

Cyclone Nargis hit Myanmar last Saturday, devastating large parts of the country. The toll, which has been estimated at over 100,000 by western diplomats, is likely to rise further as rescue workers struggle to reach remote settlements, while the nationwide number of displaced people could reach millions.
1.5 million people 'severely affected' by Myanmar cyclone: UN- Politics/Nation-News-The Economic Times

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Army5339

Time.com seems to be advocating a forceful invasion of Myanmar to save the people there.
Is It Time to Invade Burma? - TIME