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Old 04-25-2008, 11:31 AM   #16 (permalink)
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It is seldom to hear "marx" from a foreign friend's mouth

Marx said, no god exists. His comrade, Engels said, god is human being's "son".

Human beings create a image of the god and it do can be anywhere.

In fact, if cats have their own god, the god must look like a cat.

Snc, you are from Turkey?
actually, Marx called religion an "opium," arguing that religion served to make people feel better despite the horrible social conditions they had to endure. Others call religion a drug in the sense that it is addictive despite being harmful.
it seems, you missed what I intend to mean. you said that the priest had flied to sky to have a face to face meeting with God. I said that one could fly if s/he ever believed in God since God was at everywhere, including one's subconscious. to be more frank, I was discussing the non-existency of God in a sarcastic way and was criticizing Marx's inference's absurdity that I stated above by using "reverse engineering" terminology. (majority of ppl here dont reply me back when I use industrial engineering terminologies. I am afraid I am the unique engineer here.)
for further understandng you can look up Hallac-ı Mansur who says "Ana el Haqq" which literaly means "I am God." in my opinion, he said something very true. do not use linear logic while thinking on it.


and yes my friend. I am from Turkey; as easy as understanding you are from China. you should visit the thread "Mardin" to see my hometown
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Old 04-25-2008, 11:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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actually, Marx called religion an "opium," arguing that religion served to make people feel better despite the horrible social conditions they had to endure. Others call religion a drug in the sense that it is addictive despite being harmful.
it seems, you missed what I intend to mean. you said that the priest had flied to sky to have a face to face meeting with God. I said that one could fly if s/he ever believed in God since God was at everywhere, including one's subconscious. to be more frank, I was discussing the non-existency of God in a sarcastic way and was criticizing Marx's inference's absurdity that I stated above by using "reverse engineering" terminology. (majority of ppl here dont reply me back when I use industrial engineering terminologies. I am afraid I am the unique engineer here.)
for further understandng you can look up Hallac-ı Mansur who says "Ene'l Hakk" which roughly means "I am the God." in my opinion, he said something very true. do not use linear logic while thinking on it.


and yes my friend. I am from Turkey; as easy as understanding you are from China. you should visit the thread "Mardin" to see my hometown
SNC,
was he the first one to use it in sufism? I have come across this in songs of Bulle Shah and also in Dara Shikoh's interpretation of upnishads where he says an-al haque and Aham Brahmasmi(I am the creator) of hinduism are basicallly the same.Never knew he said it first.Did he belong to Naqshbandi silsila of sufism?
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I do not know very much about his personal informations, just know a few of his opinions.
let me give you a link for him.
just ignore the persian craps at the very beginning of the passage.
Mansur Al-Hallaj - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(he was originally from Iran,khuzestan province where the population is Arabic. I am getting irritated when ppl use historical persons for theri own racist concerns and obsessions.)

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was he the first one to use it in sufism? I have come across this in songs of Bulle Shah and also in Dara Shikoh's interpretation of upnishads where he says an-al haque and Aham Brahmasmi(I am the creator) of hinduism are basicallly the same.Never knew he said it first.Did he belong to Naqshbandi silsila of sufism?
btw,please inform me, if you come to a conclusion!
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