Adux

Sir,

When were racist idiots ever logical. Most of Indians and especially Pakistani settled in the UK comes from very bad backgrounds. A Indian girl who was my collegue couldnt believe her ears that in India, inter-caste. inter-religious marraiges happen and my parents are cool with it.

She is like, I can never marry a muslim.and other yada yada. Before all this when I was earning some money working part time, in a call-center while studying for my PG, I had to train an ISI Major's Wife..lol

Adux

Sir,

i am not stuck in a time wrap, rather you are stuck in a metro city , I have told you how people think, I have heard enough slime against North East Indians from the rest, last week from a friend of mine who is KingFisher Airhostess.

You are way off in your analysis. Arranged Marriages is the norm, Love marriages is the exception. In the metro cities that ratio is slightly better.

Adu

Adux

You are not in the dating scene, with young idiots..I am sir I had enough of these kind of idiots. I dont speak to one'em for his sheer hypocrisy when it comes to female population.



Not true at all Sir, Love marriages are an exception. Do not equate the metro cities to the rest of the country. Arraganed marriage's with female consent is the new norm, not forced marriages or love marriages.


True.

METRO CITIES.

India is not on the move, enough.

Sir,

My girlfriend for 4 years and I nearly got hitched at 23 was a marwadi. And my cousin sister is married to an aggarwal in Delhi. Kalloos happen, and they do to now.


We got move faster

What about all the fairness cream!!! I love dusky women myself at times. But what you said is not true for the rest of India. We have a long way to go.

You are mistaken about me in this regard. I am live among the new generation. There are times, when there is nothing to be proud of them.

Ray

I won't argue with you.

Have you been to a village in India?

Please remember I was a National Monitor for the Rural Development Ministry.

I am sure you have also noticed that I have a disturbing penchant to dig into issues instead of forming opinions on a superficial basis.

I have studied the Indian villages, though I confess, I am no expert.

I am afraid you are totally out of touch with Indian and its evolution.

You are living in some timewrap!!

My children are of your generation and what they and I discuss would make your ears turn red. The only difference is that we discuss things on an intellectual plane and not erotic!!

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Adux

Sir,

Are you telling me, Love marriages is the biggest form marriage taking place in India?



Adu

Kansas Bear

Brig,

What is that?

Also, since I missed it. Who is that pictured in your avatar?

Ray

Metro?

Nice.

Does the Army live in Metros?

You forget that I was in the Army from 1963.

What do you think the Army is all about? Parties and golf?

In the field area, it is winning the hearts and mind. It means meeting people and understanding them. As Bush says, 'It is hard work'. How do you understand them? By sitting in Metros?

In peace stations, we go out every month to areas where we can practice military activities learnt. Where do you find that space? In Metros?

And when you go out with your company all independent to train, do you for recreation only chat with your men and swig whiskey in your tent?

You move around, even if you wish to call it an evening walk. You see things happening and you get chatty and ask.

So, understand army life and then give your judgemental remarks.

I don't blame you. All my civilian friends ask me, hey, you guys are having a ball. It is only when there is a war do we get our money's worth!!

Little do they understand, as you don't understand, it is real hard work!!

If we, in the Army, don't know India, then no Indian knows India.

Wherever there is a crisis we are there. We live the sorrows and joys of India, but little is known since the media only live the joys of India and army is not a vote bank!!

Ray

National Monitor is a person selected to go occasionally to the Projects of this Ministry and check the progress and whether the funds and technical expertise is being used correctly.

They are mostly military men, since it is believed, rightly or wrongly, that they have no axe to grind.

Who is in my avatar I have forgotten.

I am not a fat chap even though I loved to be one and that is why I liked this chubby Joe.

Adux

Sir,

I didnt mean anything like that, Do answer my question. Is it your contention that Love marriages is biggest way of marriages in India?


Your picture is a of a noble man in Czarist Russia, It was previously a black & white picture and was given Colour.

Ray

I am not Sir Oracle to categorically state either way.

Neither have I any statistics to go by.

All I have is what I see. My extended family, friends and what have you and the media.

My troopers were not metropolis people. I have seen them and have had to solve their domestic problem. As a Brigade Commander, the vista was larger. And, like it or not, I love getting personally involved in what I do. Has got me in trouble, but no regrets since I was more educated on the issues than those who told me what to do. All because I took everything as personal and not a way to avoid so as to not displease the powers that be!

Even today, my men ring long distance for advice.

It gives me pride that my life was not in vain!!

In a few days time, a boy who I punished and for which his career has come to a standstill is coming home to me. Guess what? I am writing his petition against me! And contacting the powers that be to uphold his petition against me!!

He did something wrong and I have no regrets that I punished him. But to hold it against him from becoming an officer is draconian and I will fight such draconian laws even if it means I go against myself.

Fairplay is more important to me than my own self!

Adux

Sir,

Statistics say overwhelming otherwise. I can post links if you like me to.

Adu

Ray

Adux,

Lets get to the bone of the issue.

Have you been at the end of the stick and hence you have an agenda?

If so, we will sort that issue out.

As far as Statistic is concerned, Antimony gave some. Did you read that?

What would please you?

Everyone to take his pants down and expose his bottom for your taking inspite of the irrefutable evidence?

I do not belong to the class that you are ventilating against.

Yet, I am all for even handed analysis!

Give us a break!

Where do you live?

What is your grievance and specific issue that can be verified?

Write it down and send it to me and I will send it to the NGOs and the media.

We shall fight it out.

No use being an internet warrior on such important issues that you make out!

Tronic

Adu, Post which statistics you are referring to.


And I totally agree with Ray sir here. Just on the other thread, I was being told that I was 'generalizing' about rural India; despite the fact of me having lived almost my entire life on our family farm and know the rural areas, of atleast Punjab, inside out. I don't know what the reason for this is. Is it that people have gone to foreign countries and think of India being same as before when they first left? Or what? Because Adu, what I perceive is not the same as what you say.

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Tronic

Ray sir! Those words taken straight out of my mouth! Wow, I tried to keep a lid on the frustration, and avoided visiting that other thread for the same reason, but thanks for letting the steam out! Turned my frustration, into making me laugh my stomach out.

Adux

Tronic,

How can you in your right mind say, Love marriage is the most widely accepted method of finding a partner. Are we still talking about India? Yes, Love marriage is more and more accepted but it is still a far lower percentile than arranged

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