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Old 04-22-2008, 19:51 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Adu, Post which statistics you are referring to.


And I totally agree with Ray sir here. Just on the other thread, I was being told that I was 'generalizing' about rural India; despite the fact of me having lived almost my entire life on our family farm and know the rural areas, of atleast Punjab, inside out. I don't know what the reason for this is. Is it that people have gone to foreign countries and think of India being same as before when they first left? Or what? Because Adu, what I perceive is not the same as what you say.
I take it this is directed at a reply of mine. As I remember it you called villagers ignorant and bigoted or narrow minded or something along the same lines(Something about women in jeans if I recall correctly. I told you that you were generalizing based on your experiences. Two things then stand out in your above analysis:

1. I haven't been out of the country for that long. It's been a mere 3-4 years.

2. You were pointing out something negative about villagers and I pointed out that this was not true. Unless India has been retrogressing in the the period of time that I have been out of the country your analysis is flawed.

3. You've just pointed out that your experience is limited to Punjab. While lacking your depth of knowledge of any single area, I've been around the country enough to know that India is extremely divergent in thought and opinion. To generalize an opinion about all of rural India based on your experience in your village doesn't sounds like the best of ideas.

I'll comment more on the other thread next week. This week looks like becoming a lousy, long week. Economy doesn't look great. Threats of layoffs in the air and so more work.
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Old 04-22-2008, 20:09 PM   #47 (permalink)
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I take it this is directed at a reply of mine. As I remember it you called villagers ignorant and bigoted or narrow minded or something along the same lines(Something about women in jeans if I recall correctly. I told you that you were generalizing based on your experiences. Two things then stand out in your above analysis:

1. I haven't been out of the country for that long. It's been a mere 3-4 years.

2. You were pointing out something negative about villagers and I pointed out that this was not true. Unless India has been retrogressing in the the period of time that I have been out of the country your analysis is flawed.

3. You've just pointed out that your experience is limited to Punjab. While lacking your depth of knowledge of any single area, I've been around the country enough to know that India is extremely divergent in thought and opinion. To generalize an opinion about all of rural India based on your experience in your village doesn't sounds like the best of ideas.
Here we go again... lol. Anyhow, my generalizations were in response to a certain someone elses generalizations about villagers commenting on girls et all. I was not the one to use that example!!! Backtrack on the post and you can see.
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Old 04-22-2008, 20:20 PM   #48 (permalink)
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Here we go again... lol. Anyhow, my generalizations were in response to a certain someone elses generalizations about villagers commenting on girls et all. I was not the one to use that example!!! Backtrack on the post and you can see.
You were taking potshots at my opinions about rural india based on the idea that you spent all your life in rural punjab and that I am currently not in India. How does any preceding comment by anyone change the merits(or otherwise) of that argument?

As for the "generalizing based on someone else generalizing" argument, weren't you ever subject to the "if he jumps into a well..." line of questioning by your teachers when you were a kid?

In any case let's move it to the other threads and not rain on this one.
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Old 04-22-2008, 20:54 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I've moved this discussion from the
UK is sitting on a racial tinder box, say most Britons
thread, if anyone can think of a better title let me know...
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You were taking potshots at my opinions about rural india based on the idea that you spent all your life in rural punjab and that I am currently not in India. How does any preceding comment by anyone change the merits(or otherwise) of that argument?
Not potshots. Your misconceptions of rural India. And yes, as far as I know, rural Punjab also constitutes a part of rural India. Now let me ask, based on what did you form those opinions on? Have you ever lived in rural India? And if so, which state, which district?

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Yes, I did learn that lesson, yet it has no relevance to this. Did you read the original posts in the caste thread on how that argument even started? I was the one arguing against that generalization and from my observations, it is only the Dakaunts which are like that, when they see some ladies from the city. If you call that my generalization of the Dakaunts, then so be it, they are not a huge community, and the small packed community they live in is by no means ideal for any city ladies (by which I'm merely trying to point out the dressing style of these girls) visiting the place. And it is not so much as looking down on them, but just plainly looking at them with wrong intentions.
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The great Indian slugfest?
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Indian men marching off to being slaughtered!
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The "melting pot of Indians" implies a hot temperature - at least in the pot!!
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That's an editorial from my university paper -- which is as good as a tabloid.
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The advantages or disadvantages of arrange marriages will never be understood by the Americans since they will never be allowed in the portals of the Cabots and Lodges or Lowells.

"And this is good old Boston,
The home of the bean and the cod,
Where the Lowells talk only to Cabots,
And the Cabots talk only to God."
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what about "riot of villagers"



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Of course Indians have a fascination with fair skin. Why should that stop liberated individuals like you, Tronic (not Ray Saab, he is too senior) and me from oggling at the dark skinned beauties
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I think in the 50's and 60's, a large number of Catholic men and women found partners though their relatives, almost like an arranged marriage.

Until the 21st century, Italians also had the same type of marriages, marrying off a girl to cement the family ties/bonds, which is also very similar to arranged marriages in India.
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SNC,

Is that an Indian village?

It is nice to know that blue tiles are in Indian villages. Usually it is terracotta and they can't afford or don't want to waste money on these designer tiles.

The Chaps definitely look Mongolian in feature and the police shields don't seem to have Indian language characters.
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Is that an Indian village?

It is nice to know that blue tiles are in Indian villages. Usually it is terracotta and they can't afford or don't want to waste money on these designer tiles.

The Chaps definitely look Mongolian in feature and the police shields don't seem to have Indian language characters.
I would expect you to ask "what is next?"

well,
Most Indians (especially villagers) hate caste system (they are right more or less!). that is what I see.
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Hey, it is the time for me to realize so many Indian guys here

I wonder if you could give me some useful info.

If a foreign lady(e.g. Fiona) marry an Indian guy( of course not Adu) what will happen?

more hypothesizes for you:

The guy is about 3 or 4 years older than me.

The guy is very nice to me.

I am from a country where it is impossible to give my husband's family more money than it they give me.

I dont have a house in India.

If I go to India, perhaps I dont know anyone else expect my husband.

I need Chinese food at least once per week.

I dont want to totally give up my future career for any cause.

Are they enough?


Then:

What will be the wedding like?

What will my husband's family members think about me?

What will the life after marriage be?
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