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Old 03-27-2008, 13:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Having an AK derivative doesn't make you more or less likely to gun down cops at a traffic stop. Turn it around instead: being more likely to gun down cops at a traffic stop makes you more likely to get an AK derivative.

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Old 03-27-2008, 13:52 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I cant believe that the Miami-Dade PD and the LAPD only just allowed their patrol officers to carry AR-15 rifles in their vehicles! In my area they have been doing it for quite some time now.

Even then, I am not so sure this would have been helpful as I believe that most LEOs killed/wounded are killed/wounded before they have a chance to draw their pistol much less run to the trunk and unlock and then load the rifle.
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Old 03-28-2008, 02:24 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Thats why in my area most patrol cars hold two officers one to investigate and one to cover
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Old 03-28-2008, 15:10 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Thats why in my area most patrol cars hold two officers one to investigate and one to cover
That would be financially impossible for most agencies. Then again it comes down to officer safety vs presence/response times.

From what I understand, the 2 officer cars are very very rare in most agencies except in high crime areas or on night shifts.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:40 AM   #20 (permalink)
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My sources tell me that the street price for a "dirty" '47 is about 300 euro.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:31 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Bihar is one ****ed up state. What's true of Bihar is definitely not true of the rest of the country. I'm from Maharashtra, and I've never heard of gun violence there on the scale that happens in the US. Secondly, can you imagine what would happen in India if gun laws were relaxed? The riots that take place ever so often would then be staged with AK-47s, and the police would find it impossible to control them with their old .303s. Law and order would be impossible to establish!
Just lik whats true of African American violence is not true of the rest of America which is remarkably crime free without that demographic.
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Old 03-29-2008, 23:15 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I note the complete absence of the UK in any of those stats above - and long may it remain so - we do not have a gun culture, unlike certain countries who cannot live without it. The american excuse "the right to bear arms" is just phoney.
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Old 03-29-2008, 23:53 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I note the complete absence of the UK in any of those stats above - and long may it remain so - we do not have a gun culture, unlike certain countries who cannot live without it. The american excuse "the right to bear arms" is just phoney.
In certain neighbourhoods, I dream about such a right.

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Old 03-30-2008, 00:00 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I note the complete absence of the UK in any of those stats above - and long may it remain so - we do not have a gun culture, unlike certain countries who cannot live without it. The american excuse "the right to bear arms" is just phoney.
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Old 03-30-2008, 03:50 AM   #25 (permalink)
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Loon's will use whatever they can get their hands on to do their ill deeds.

This is just terrible, all of those AK's ( insert item, ie 5lb lump hammer, knife's, spear, bows and arrows, clubs not to forget sticks and stones), out there just waiting to be misused.

Every time I open my browser I get all the local news from my old Post code area in the UK and shudder whilst reading all of the doom and gloom, young girl stabbed over 30+ times now in intensive care, and that was in Chorley where I went to school. In fact I used to do my running training in that same Park where she was attacked.

Until Mr Ryan & Hamilton went berserk in the UK we the shooting community were not only accepted, but respected. The media and the Politicians turned us into criminals and had us outlawed to meet their own ends. Ordinary people were taught to be afraid of us because we could just flip out and start killing people for no reason what so ever....

They banned handguns and Large calibre semi auto rifles, most of the criminals in the UK have access to those types of weapons, and guess what they don't respect or observe any law's. They will kill you for what you have in your wallet or for just getting in their way.
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:07 AM   #26 (permalink)
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LEO's get paid for taking the risk's that they take on our behalf on a daily basis, they are trained and equipped to do that job, kid's at a birthday party are not.

I like shooting, from air rifles to a tank's main armament,( not that I get to do that any more) and I am aware of what damage that they can do, and take precautions to prevent any unnecessary accidents or mishap's.

Why should I and people like myself be punished for the actions of oh so few?

I have taken a pre-emptive defensive stance on this possible/probable gun bashing topic, because it means something to me.

Maybe I'm delusional, I know I was about smoking, until I recently stopped.
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Old 03-30-2008, 04:55 AM   #27 (permalink)
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That's a good point. Why blame all gun owners if a few criminals cause all the problems?

That's like calling all muslims terrorists because a few commit terrorist acts in their name, and then go after mosques and korans...
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